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i did that polPak and heres what i came up with

-21

Nope. What was the equation after you do the distributing?

-17 - 6x +6X -2-X

2(3X +1)
-17- X= 6X + 2

You forgot that it's a -2, not 2 you're distributing.

\[-2(3x + 1) = -2(3x) -2(1) = -6x - 2\]
So you should have
\[17 - x = -6x -2\]

oh so the 6 becomes -6x

And the 2 becomes -2.

Err My equation is slightly wrong..
You should have \[-17 -x = -6x -2\]

-17 - x = -6 - 2

Don't lose track of the x on the -6. It's important

then now i can solve for x
so the its
-17x -6 - 2

No. -17 - x is not -17x and you can't just put them together like that.

Ok look at it like this.

ok

-17 - 8 so there for x is 8

I have no idea what you are doing.. -17 - 8 doesn't enter into it.

i am just lost

Ok stop doing things.. Just look at what I'm saying.

\[-17 - x \text{ EQUALS } -6x -2\]

okay lol i am stopping right now

Ok? They are the same.

That's what equals means right?

yes

okay

Do you agree that those two are equal? Is 3+5 the same as 5+3 and -3 - 5 the same as -5 - 3?

yes

because you distribute right

Commute, but yeah.

Right?

right

So now our equation looks like this:
\[-x - 17 = -6x - 2\]

that part i got is solving for x thats has me upside ways

We'll get there.

So if those two things are the same.. Then isn't \[6x + (-x - 17) = 6x + (-6x - 2)\]

Because we added 6x to both sides, and if they were equal to start with, they must still be equal.

okay thats the part that throws me off

How so?

its like my flipping mind goes blank and i have no idea what comes next

Ok relax for a second and lets talk about something else first.

or maybe i am trying too hard to understand and i get tied up

Think of a number, any number you want. Don't tell me what it is.

ok

Now, tell me what 2 times that number is.

184

Ok. So now I will magically read your mind and tell you that your number is 92!

How did I accomplish this sorcery?

lol yes

you divided

But how does that help me?

Because you told me that 2x = 182

Well I know that if 2x = 182 then \[2x \times {1 \over 2} = 182 \times {1 \over 2}\]

so you have to find out what 2x amounts to

Because you said that they were the same, so anything I do to both sides will maintain equality.

And \[2x \times \frac{1}{2} = x\]

And \[182 \times \frac{1}{2} = 92\]

So therefore x = 92

So now I'm thinking of a number.

91

okay

Whoops. Sorry I typo'd your response.

Shoulda been 184 not 182.

no one has ever broke it down like this thank you

its okay

so you want me to solve for your number

2(6^6)+17=X

Or better still
6x + 2

12(6)=72+17=89

No no no.

OH WOW

You keep jumping ahead ;)

okay am slowing down

and laughing at myself

np =)

Try again.
14 more than the number is 2 more than 4 times the number.

We're just practicing turning english into equations.

okay

Don't try to solve it yet. Just rewrite what I say in equation form.

Actually 14 more than the number is 5 more than 4 times the number.

14 + n = 2(4)

Sorry

Almost!

was i close

The left side is right, the right side is not.

Try my last version, but break it down a bit.
If x is my number what is 4 times my number??

14 + n = 5(4 + n) oh please be right

You're doing great btw. It's important to have patience when working through this.

No, that's not right still. Lets work through it a little at a time.

What is 4 times my number?

your number is 14 right

no

my number is x

ok am gonna shoot here is it 14x be gentel

2(22)=44

Awsome!

That's perfect

Now if I tell you my number is k and I ask you what's 4 times my number what would you do?

yeah me finally

4(k)

yep!

And if I tell you my number is b and I ask what is 5 more than (4 times my number)?

You taking a long time, so I know something is wrong ;p

If I tell you my number is 3 and I ask what is 5 more than my number?

oh help me okay it would 20(b) or 5(b)=20

neither.

darn it

it's just a little language barrier. We'll fix it

If I tell you my number is 3 and I ask what is 5 more than my number what would you do?

am trying not to think of the words

the words are important.

3(5)=15

15 is 3 more than 5?

Or 5 more than 3?

What is 5 more than 3?

5 + 3

am adding here

5 + 3 means 5 more than 3

gosh i feel stupid now

It's ok. Just a little gap in your knowledge.

so am mixing up more with multiplying

a huge gap

Right. If I say 4 times my number is 4k Then what is 5 more than 4 times my number?

ok let me solve it

Don't have to solve, just have to translate.

4k +9

So close!

oops i left off the 4

No.

Ok, my number is k. What is 4 times my number?

4(k)=4k

Ok, and what is 5 more than 4 times my number?

You already solved half of this just a minute ago.

9(n)

holding my breath

No. it's
5 + 4k
5 more than four times my number

5 + 4k

5 more means +5

am trying too hard

yes

Ok, but now you know.

okay so i don't add 5 and 4 just 5+ 4k

right

these are the steps.
-17-x=-6x-2
6x-x=17-2
5x=15
x=3

While I'm sure doing her work is appreciated it's not going to help her on the next problem.

awe man

thats true

thanks pat18

One sec Bella. This thread is lagging up a bit. Lets start a new question with the next one?

okay

brb

you are welcome.

okay am back polPak

Can you make a new questiON?

err question?

okay

what is 6 times my number a and 8 more times 4