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hersheys06
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A piece of wire 25 m long is cut into two pieces. One piece is bent into a square and the other is bent into a circle.
(a) How much of the wire should go to the square to maximize the total area enclosed by both figures?
ANS= 0 m
*** (b) How much of the wire should go to the square to minimize the total area enclosed by both figures?
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hersheys06 Group Title
A piece of wire 25 m long is cut into two pieces. One piece is bent into a square and the other is bent into a circle. (a) How much of the wire should go to the square to maximize the total area enclosed by both figures? ANS= 0 m *** (b) How much of the wire should go to the square to minimize the total area enclosed by both figures?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
if you want a guess i would say put everything in to the circle and forget about the square
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh sorry you already answered that
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
probably all in the square to minimize rigth? just a guess though
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ktklown Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
that's my guess too, but, i'll bring mathematica out again ;)
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ktklown Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yeah, mathematica says to put 100% into the square
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ktklown Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
In[940]:= Minimize[{\[Pi]r^2 + x^2, 4 x + 2 \[Pi]r == 25}, {r, x}] Out[940]= {1/16 (625  100 \[Pi]r + 20 \[Pi]r^2), {r > 0, x > 1/4 (25  2 \[Pi]r)}}
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hersheys06 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
How much of the wire should go to the square to minimize the total area enclosed by both figures? i think it requires a numerical answer
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ktklown Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
all of it. 25 m
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hersheys06 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
it says it's incorrect :S
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ktklown Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
oh now i get x=3.5, that's one side of the square
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hersheys06 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
sorrry, still incorrect T___T;
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ktklown Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
well it's 4 times that i just gave you one side
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hersheys06 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ohh, i did the area (3.5)^2 instead of (3.5)*4. thanksss
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ktklown Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
did it say that was right?
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robtobey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
(b) How much of the wire should go to the square to minimize the total area enclosed by both figures? The exact answer is:\[\frac{100}{4+\pi } \text{ meters}\]or 14.002479 meters to 8 digits.
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robtobey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Take the derivative of the expression of interest\[D\left[\left(\frac{x}{4}\right)^2+\frac{(25x)^2}{4 \pi },x\right] \]set it to zero\[\frac{25x}{2 \pi }+\frac{x}{8}==0 \]and solve for x.\[x\to \frac{100}{4+\pi } \]A plot is attached.
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robtobey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Using Mathematica's Minimize function:\[\text{Minimize}\left[ \left\{\left(\frac{x}{4}\right)^2+\frac{(25x)^2}{4 \pi }\right\},x\right]\to \]\[\left\{\frac{2500+\frac{40000}{(4+\pi )^2}+\frac{10000 \pi }{(4+\pi )^2}\frac{20000}{4+\pi }}{16 \pi },\left\{x\to \frac{100}{4+\pi }\right\}\right\}\text{ //N} \]
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