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moneybird
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Find all integers n such that (28.5)^n + (99.5)^n is an integer.
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moneybird Group Title
Find all integers n such that (28.5)^n + (99.5)^n is an integer.
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Ishaan94 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I think it is true for every odd integer and zero, of course! but I am finding it hard to prove it :/
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moneybird Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.5
hint: express the decimals into fractions
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moneybird Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.5
they are odd integers, but not all of them
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Ishaan94 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
One thing I have noticed that if we end up with '.50' as fractional part, We get an Integer as ".5+.5=1"
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moneybird Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.5
\[(\frac{57}{2}) ^n + (\frac{199}{2}) ^n \]
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Ishaan94 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Hmm I did the fractions way too \[\left(\frac{57}{2}\right)^n + \left(\frac{199}{2}\right)^n \implies \frac{(57)^n + (199)^n}{2^n}\] Now one can easily see it's valid for n = 1 and 0
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moneybird Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.5
You know that 57^n + 199^n must be an integer multiple of 2^n
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moneybird Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.5
So now you need to prove that whether n is odd or even
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Ishaan94 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Hmm Okay \[(57)^n + (199)^n = K*2^n\] Now \(odd^n \) should be always odd.The LHS is always even as odd + odd = even. \(2^n\) is always even too Now for RHS to be even K should be even as well
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Ishaan94 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ugh I need to think now, I messed up somewhere :/
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moneybird Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.5
ok i got to go
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Ishaan94 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Bye, Thanks for the Help :)
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
If we rearrange the expression as:\[(\frac{57}{2})^n+(\frac{199}{2})^n\]then as @Ishaan94 pointed out, we can go on to get this equation:\[57^n+199^n=\text{constant} * 2^n\]so we need to prove that \(57^n+199^n\) is divisible by \(2^n\). I then noticed that \(199=25657=2^857\) and took advantage of this to get:\[57^n+(2^857)^n\]and using the binomial expansion we get:\[ \begin{align} (2^857)^n&=(2^8)^n(2^8)^{n1}.57+…+(1)^{n1}.(2^8).57^{n1}+(1)^n.57^n\\ &=2^8(2^n2^{n1}.57+…+(1)^{n1}.57^{n1})+(1)^n.57^n\\ \therefore 57^n+(2^857)^n&=57^n+2^8(2^n2^{n1}.57+…+(1)^{n1}.57^{n1})+(1)^n.57^n\\ &=57^n+(1)^n.57^n+2^8(2^n2^{n1}.57+…+(1)^{n1}.57^{n1})\\ &=57^n(1+(1)^n)+2^8(2^n2^{n1}.57+…+(1)^{n1}.57^{n1})\\ \end{align}\]the first expression \(57^n(1+(1)^n)\) is always zero for odd values of 'n' and is not divisible by \(2^n\) for even values of 'n'. the second expression \(2^8(...)\) is always divisible by \(2^n\) for \(n=0…8\). so, combining the two conditions, we get the solution as:\[n=0,1,3,5,7\]
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
@moneybird  do you have the actual proof for this and does my proof match up to it?
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moneybird Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.5
you know that n must be an odd number because let n be 2m \[(57^{m})^{2} + (199^{m})^{2} = constant * 2^n\] odd integer = 2k + 1 square of an odd (2k + 1)^2 = 4 (k^2 + k) + 1 so sum of two squares of odd must be 2 more than the multiple of 4. 2^n is divisble by for n is greater or equal to 2 So n must be an odd number \[57^n + 199^n = (57 + 199) (57^{n1}  199 *57^{n2} ... + 199^{n1})\] 57 + 199 = 256 57^n + 199^n is divisble by 256 \[\frac{256}{2^n} = q\] where q is an integer n can only be 0, 1, 3, 5 and 7
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
nice proof  a lot simpler
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