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anonymous
 4 years ago
If CPUs were infinitely fast, and we had infinitely fast and infinitely large memory, would we benefit from optimization?
anonymous
 4 years ago
If CPUs were infinitely fast, and we had infinitely fast and infinitely large memory, would we benefit from optimization?

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anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0So you're talking about the point that computers pass us? What's that called again, (trying to think)

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0The technological singularity?

dumbcow
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.7if you had a infinite amount of money, would you benefit from managing your money ??

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Ohh, good one dumbcow (I always feel uncomfortable typing your name btw) ;)

dumbcow
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.7isn't the point of optimization is to maximize limited resources....therefore optimization is obsolete with infinite resources...in my opinion

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0So, theoretically, optimization is the maximization of infinite resources, correct? Thus would be unnecessary in your scenario

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/PPTMooresLawai.jpg

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0haha, beat me to it dumbcow

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Is there any resource on earth that's infinite?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0nothing on earth is infinite if the earth itself will have a set limit of existence itself...

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0What about software that can be infinitely copied/reused with no sort of degredation, or even ideas?

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Well, given that a resource must take up some sort of space, an infinite resource would take up infinite volume.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0so, does a resource have to be tangible then?

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Not necessarily. I feel that all resources take up some sort of "space", whether that space is volume or not. Let me try to rephrase.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0software and ideas certainly do take space

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0i was referin to material of course

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Well, ideas can be stored in a few places: neurons, text, etc. But none of these is infinite.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@cshalvey don't they occupy minds? Don't minds have limited storage? I think the mind is a little different though...

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1An idea can exist without being stored in any of those places, but if it's not stored in any one of those places, does it actually exist? Since no one knows the idea?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0right, the mind is absurdly hard to quantify  we have estimates, but no real hard data, ie GB of storage for instance

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Interesting Xishem...

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0an idea can be used :P

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0without many thought to it

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Also, if I have an idea, and I forget  does that idea necessarily cease to exist?

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Crazy... I wonder if it's stored somewhere in the folds of your brain in some neurons somewhere that you just can't access.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Philosophy on the Math group :D

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Or I wonder if it's possible to completely erase an idea or thought from your mind?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0i think it has more to do with psychology :P

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I think so Xishem  for instance studies on dreams, etc are more puzzling than helpful

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0if you are talking about the mind

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Imma gonna give this question a medal  off topic be damned ;)

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I thought deja vu was simply a glitch in your memory function or something...

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0True, but it's also rooted a lot in memory they've found. Which is weird  because it's forward focused (present experiences 'remembered')

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1I'd be interested to see how you could affect certain memories that are stored in the brain. For instance, if you (physically) removed a neuron from a neuron group for a given memory, how would it affect that memory? Would it be like corrupted files on a computer, where they just couldn't be read, or would some completely unrelated memory take its place?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I think it's more organic than that  the concept of 'relearning' how to walk for instance  neurons regrow in new paths...

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0And then there's actual memory loss  amnesia  which spontaneously can go away, or never go away

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Like if you pull the last bit off of 1011, it changes from 11 to 5. cshalvey: Hmm, possibly. It'd be interesting to see how different memory groups relate to eachother.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0memory loss is actually caused by the brain becoming smoother

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0right, a degradation right?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0humans are different would be different computers where humans can relearn things humans can forget things and remember again computers they hold things in for a terminally if they break ( they are doomed forever until fixed)

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1That's just because the system that humans use to find data is... primitive compared to computers.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0well, this was fun everyone  but I'm off to bed  knackered great question adgd, interesting convo mth, Xishem, dumbcow

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0lol with so many ppl answering i felt like i did something wrong

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0A quick responce to the question "what is infinite on earth?" Data.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1That's a pretty broad term. Specify?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Or was that already said? :/

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Well, if you think about it, everything around us is made up of data. Specificaly atoms and cells.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1So are there infinite atoms and cells?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Technically... yes. Untill we find a limit to space, and time. :

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1We haven't NOT found a limit. I don't think you can automatically assume that space and time are infinite.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0And then there is Pi (\[\pi\]). Which to my current understanding is infinite. Thereby providing infinite data.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Ah! And Energy is also infinite.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0isn't the concept of infinite and infinitesimal relative?

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Just because pi has an infinite number of digits doesn't mean all of those digits are stored somewhere. Pi is only an abstraction humans have made for the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter. It has no meaning.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0energy is not infinite

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0mth3v4, Energy cannot be created or destroyed. So in theory, we will never gain more, or lose any. Doesn't that make it infinite?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I am talking in reference to the physical world. Imagine a creature so small lets say made up of just an element or nearly an element's size wouldn't the term infinitesimal and infinite have different meaning for the creature.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0according to the laws of newton not so

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0it is not a matter of destroying or not destroying

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1The energy will be around for an infinite amount of time, but you don't have infinite energy.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0@Xishern, I understand that it's nothing more than a numeric value, I am just trying to think of concepts that are infinite.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1If you have 5 everlasting dollar bills, you still can't pay for something that costs $10.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0mth3v4, Can you please explain?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0i am not reffering to conservation of energy

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Energy would be infinite resource, certainly.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1However, it's not infinite on Earth.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Well, actually, assume that Earth were a closed system (which it's not). No energy can escape, so therefore, you could continue using the energy over and over, yes?

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1But it's impossible to create a completely closed system.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0i was reffering to law 1 of motion i think i forgot

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0closed system infinite earth i would agree infinite energy

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0but world going to end who know when (not in my time of course)

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0lol this question became such an attraction

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0well i gtg now nice talking to you every1 :D

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0mth3v4, I have gone over Newtons laws, and I cant seem to find the one you are refering to...

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Isee, well perhaps we can discuss this later :/

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0There was a interesting question that this question reminds me of, "Given an infinite number of monkeys and an infinite amount of time, would one of them write Hamlet?"

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1With no typewriters, of course not.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Indeed, and I suppose the correct answer would be yes (if they did have typewriters), It's just that it would take "forever".

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Hell, one monkey given a typewriter and infinite time would write Hamlet.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Yes this is actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Now the question is, would it take a shorter time if there is one monkey? Or a longer time if there were many?

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Well, if you have two monkeys whacking away at it, you would get the result you wanted, on average, twice as fast.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0But as the article says, there is a 1in15 625 000 000 chance to type the word "banana"

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I shudder to think of the chance to type one of Shakespeare's works.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1The probability to get Hamlet right the first time is:\[3.4 × 10^{183,946}\]Incredible.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0I guess we will be waiting a while then.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1What about this: Would one monkey with a typewriter, typing at an infinite speed, for an infinitesimally small amount of time be able to do it?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0yes sure, given an *infinite* time anything is possible

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Well, the chances of the typewriter surviving that encounter...

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Anything? What about a state of the universe that cannot exist?

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Well, now you are proposing something more philosophical. I don't believe either of us will be able to answer that one.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1For instance, some state of the universe where a different amount of matter and energy exist compared to this state.

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1Given no amount of time (even infinite), that state of the universe is not possible.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0So, you're saying if some matter and energy just vanished? Indeed. perhaps that wouldn't be possible

Xishem
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1It is, however, possible that I'm ranting with littletono cognizance of anything, as it's 3AM here.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0But we are working unknown values. We cannot draw a logical and solid end from this.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Aye, and it's about time I returned to my studies. I should go.

anonymous
 4 years ago
Best ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0Perhaps we can discuss infinite values another time. I bid all of ye farewell.
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