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atjari
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Let vectora=4i+3jalphak, vector b=2i+alphaj+k and vectorc=5ij+alphak, where alpha is a real number. Show that the vector c is not in the space spanned by vectors a and b. Pls help
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atjari Group Title
Let vectora=4i+3jalphak, vector b=2i+alphaj+k and vectorc=5ij+alphak, where alpha is a real number. Show that the vector c is not in the space spanned by vectors a and b. Pls help
 2 years ago
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JamesJ Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
c is not in the span of a and b, if and only if the three vectors a,b,c are linearly independent. That means that the system of coefficients of the three vectors has nonzero determinant. So one way to show the result of the question is to show that the matrix 4 3 a 2 a 1 5 1 a has nonzero determinant.
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atjari Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
since alpha is unknown v cn't v shw that it has non zero determinant. isnt t?
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atjari Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
for 2 values of alpha the matrix becoes zero. then hw do v shw?
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atjari Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
James pls help.
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JamesJ Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Yes, you're exactly right. For two values of a, the determinant IS zero and hence the vector c DOES lie in the span of the vectors a and b. So the question as written is not exactly correct.
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atjari Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
if I solve c=pa+qb i get alpha as an imaginary number. so cn v say that "since alpha is given as real number bt v get here alpha as an imaginary number. so c is nt in the spce spand by a nd b."
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JamesJ Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
It's a brutal calculation, but if \[ \alpha = \frac{1}{9} (4 \pm \sqrt{115} ) \] then there are real numbers p and q such that c = pa + qb. For example, if alpha = (1/9) ( 4 + sqrt(115)), then \[ p = \frac{53  2\sqrt{115}}{2(\sqrt{115}22)}, q = \frac{\sqrt{115} 4}{2(\sqrt{115}22}\]
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atjari Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
how do u get this value for alpha? I get alpha as +/sqrt7+2
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JamesJ Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
the determinant of the matrix written above is \[ 9\alpha^2  8\alpha + 11 \] That expression is zero, when \( \alpha \) is \[ \alpha = \frac{4 \pm \sqrt{115}}{9} \]
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atjari Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
then hw do v shw that it is nt in the space?
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JamesJ Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
As I noted above, the question as written is wrong. For two values of alpha, the vector c DOES lie in span of the vectors a and b.
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atjari Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
extremly sorry 4 troubling u a lt.
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atjari Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Thanx a lt 4 ur great help.
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