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xEnOnn
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Suppose I have the following sequence in an event:
BABCCABAA
There are 9 elements in the sequence and I want to find the number of arrangements I get can out of this 9 elements. The order does matter but because there are repeated elements such as 4A's, 3B's, etc, it becomes not as easy as just 9 factorial. For example, the following 2 are the considered only one arrangement:
\[BA_3BCCA_4BA_1A_2\]
and
\[BA_1BCCA_4BA_2A_3\]
So how can I find the number of arrangements when there are such repeated elements in it?
 2 years ago
 2 years ago
xEnOnn Group Title
Suppose I have the following sequence in an event: BABCCABAA There are 9 elements in the sequence and I want to find the number of arrangements I get can out of this 9 elements. The order does matter but because there are repeated elements such as 4A's, 3B's, etc, it becomes not as easy as just 9 factorial. For example, the following 2 are the considered only one arrangement: \[BA_3BCCA_4BA_1A_2\] and \[BA_1BCCA_4BA_2A_3\] So how can I find the number of arrangements when there are such repeated elements in it?
 2 years ago
 2 years ago

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FoolForMath Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
It's simple, \( \large \frac{9!}{4! \times 3! \times 2!} = 1260 \)
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jerwyn_gayo Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
permutation. . i'll go with FFM
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xEnOnn Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Does this come from a formula? What's the rationale behind this equation?
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xEnOnn Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Also, what if order does not matter? ie, combinations?
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FoolForMath Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Put separate stickers on each of the four 'A', three 'B', and one of the two C's, to distinguish them. Now there are 9 distinct letters can be arranged in 9! ways. Remove the stickers, of all A's, then all B's and then all C's. Each time we remove the stickers, 4! arrangements collapse into 1 for A's, 3! arrangement collapses to 1 for B's and 2! to 1 for C. So the number of arrangements the given 9 letters is \[ \large \frac{9!}{4! \times 3! \times 2!} \]
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xEnOnn Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Based on your explanation, if the order does not matter, can I say it would then be this: \[\large \frac{9!}{(4! \times 3! \times 2!) \times 3!}\]
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FoolForMath Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
No that is incorrect interpretation for my explanation.
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xEnOnn Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
But if the order does not matter, then I need to divide away the number of stickers I remove too, right? Although I remove 9 stickers in total, I can't divide by 9! again. Otherwise the equation will become a fraction.
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FoolForMath Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
What you mean by order does not matter, my answer assumes it means that A's and B's and C's are indistinguishable.
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jerwyn_gayo Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
at xenon, i think you can only do that to combination problems, this is permutation. .
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xEnOnn Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
@jerwyn gayo oh yea...I think you are right. Thanks FFM for the help!! :)
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xEnOnn Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Because I think if I want "order does not matter", it will just be 1.
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FoolForMath Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Glad to help :)
 2 years ago
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