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ineedbiohelpandquick
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solving by elimination
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2xy=3
4x+3y=21
when i solve it i get x=1.2 and y= .6 but when i check it back in to the equation it is wrong will someone help me!
 2 years ago
 2 years ago
ineedbiohelpandquick Group Title
solving by elimination 1) 2xy=3 4x+3y=21 when i solve it i get x=1.2 and y= .6 but when i check it back in to the equation it is wrong will someone help me!
 2 years ago
 2 years ago

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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
2xy=3 4x+3y=21 3*(2xy)=3*3 4x+3y=21 6x3y=9 4x+3y=21  10x = 30 10x = 30 x = 30/10 x = 3 Now that we know that x = 3, we can use it to find y 2xy = 3 2(3)y = 3 6  y = 3 y = 36 y = 3 y = 3 So x = 3 and y = 3
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
thank you so much! would you be willing to explain this one? xy=2 2x+2y=5
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
xy=2 2x+2y=5 2(xy)=2*2 2x+2y=5 2x2y=4 2x+2y=5  0x+0y = 9 0 = 9 ... which is FALSE So there are no solutions. This means that the system is inconsistent.
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay the zero threw me off when i had done it! do you know how to solve by using back substitution by chance?
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Solving by substitution: xy=2 x = 2 + y  2x+2y = 5 2(2+y) + 2y = 5 4  2y + 2y = 5 4 = 5 ... which is FALSE So again, the system is inconsistent and there are no solutions.
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
here is one... 2xy+5z=24 y+2z=4 z=6
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
for using backsubstitution
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
y+2z=4 y+2(6)=4 y + 12 = 4 y = 412 y = 8  2xy+5z = 24 2x  (8) + 5(6) = 24 2x + 8 + 30 = 24 2x + 38 = 24 2x = 2438 2x = 14 x = 14/2 x = 7 So the solutions are x = 7, y = 8 and z = 6
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
you are incredible thank you!
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You're welcome
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
hey are you still on here? can you help me with solve using rowoperations... x+y+z=6 2xy+z=3 3x z=0
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
x+y+z=6 2xy+z=3 3x z=0 1 1 1 6 2 1 1 3 3 0 1 0 1 1 1 6 2 1 1 3 0 3 4 18 R3  3R1 1 1 1 6 0 3 1 9 R2  2R1 0 3 4 18 1 1 1 6 0 1 1/3 3 (1/3)*R2 0 3 4 18 1 1 1 6 0 1 1/3 3 0 0 3 9 R3 + 3R2 1 1 1 6 0 1 1/3 3 0 0 1 3 (1/3)*R3 x+y+z = 6 y+(1/3)z = 3 z = 3 ============================================= ============================================= y+(1/3)z = 3 y+(1/3)(3) = 3 y + 1 = 3 y = 31 y = 2  x+y+z = 6 x+2+3 = 6 x + 5 = 6 x = 1 So the solutions are x = 1, y = 2 and z = 3
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
May i ask you what the R stands for
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
R stands for the row So R1 means "row 1", R2 means "row 2", and R3 means "row 3"
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay so how did you determine subtract row 3 3 by row1
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
When going from 1 1 1 6 2 1 1 3 3 0 1 0 to 1 1 1 6 2 1 1 3 0 3 4 18 R3  3R1 I did this to make that lower left corner value go from 3 to 0 Notice that 3  3*1 = 33 = 0 This basically "eliminates" the x variable in equation 3 which gets me one step closer to solving for x, y, and z
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay can you tell me what you get for this one then... 6y+4z=18 3x+3y = 9 2x z =12
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
using the same method of row reduction or some other method?
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
row reduction :)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
alright thanks, one sec
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
6y+4z=18 3x+3y = 9 2x z =12 0 6 4 18 3 3 0 9 2 0 1 12 0 6 4 18 1 1 0 3 (1/3)*R2 2 0 1 12 1 1 0 3 R1 <> R2 0 6 4 18 2 0 1 12 1 1 0 3 0 6 4 18 0 2 1 6 R3  2*R1 1 1 0 3 0 2 1 6 R2 <> R3 0 6 4 18 1 1 0 3 0 1 1/2 3 (1/2)*R2 0 6 4 18 1 1 0 3 0 1 1/2 3 0 0 1 0 R3  6*R2 x+y = 3 y + (1/2)z = 3 z = 0  y + (1/2)z = 3 y + (1/2)(0) = 3 y = 3  x+y = 3 x + (3) = 3 x  3 = 3 x = 3+3 x = 6 So the solutions are x = 6, y = 3, and z = 0
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
THANK YOU! You don't know how much you have helped me! there is only one more I can't seem to get right do you have time for one more? :)
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sure whats the problem
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
same thing so solving by row operations :)... its x2y+5z=2 4x z=0
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
x2y+5z=2 4x z=0 1 2 5 2 4 0 1 0 1 2 5 2 0 8 21 8 R2  4*R1 x2y+5z = 2 8y21z=8  8y21z=8 8y = 8 + 21z y = (21z  8)/8  x2y+5z = 2 x2( (21z  8)/8 )+5z = 2 x  4(21z  8) + 5z = 2 x  84z + 32 + 5z = 2 x  79z + 32 = 2 x  79z = 232 x  79z = 30 x = 79z  30 Now if you let z = s, where s is any number, then the solutions are x = 79s  30, y = (21s  8)/8, z = s This means that there are an infinite number of solutions. So the system is consistent and dependent.
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
A very quick way to determine if you'll have a dependent system is noticing that there are more variables than equations.
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so the answer is consistent and dependent or x = 79z  30 sorry I am a little confused haha
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Well both aspects make up the total answer. The idea here is that there are an infinite number of points where the two equations x2y+5z=2 and 4x z=0 intersect So this makes the system dependent (since one equation technically "depends" on the other  it changes as the other one does) Because at least one solution exists, this makes the system consistent. The answers of x = 79s30, etc... are the more explicit forms of the solutions and are more specific than saying "there are an infinite number of solutions" This is because you can't just say that something random like (1,2,3) is a solution even though I did say "there are an infinite number of solutions". All of the solutions fit a very specific algebraic form.
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ineedbiohelpandquick Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
That makes sense! Thank you again! I appreciate all your help!
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jim_thompson5910 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You're welcome, glad it's all clicking.
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