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calyne
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Use implicit differentiation to find an equation of the tangent line to the curve at the curve at the given point: x^2 + y^2 = (2x^2 + 2y^2  x)^2
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calyne Group Title
Use implicit differentiation to find an equation of the tangent line to the curve at the curve at the given point: x^2 + y^2 = (2x^2 + 2y^2  x)^2
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
... @ (0,1/2)
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
not that i tmatters anyway i'm just a little confused regarding the differentiation here
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
alright give me a second to remember lol
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
alright i'll upload a picture on what to do
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
and an example give me a sec
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
like i got as far as [4x+4y*y']/[4x+4y*y'1] = 2x^2 + 2y^2  x
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
actualy i can't... i'll just type it out what my book says GUIDELINES FOR IMPLICIT DIFFERENTIATION 1. Differentiat both sides of the equatio with respects to x 2. collect al terms involve dy/dx on the left side of the equation and move all others to right 3.factor dy/dx out of the left side of the equation 4.solve for dy/dx by dividing both sides
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by factor
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
right righ tok so and
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so what do i do from what i have am i good so far
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
let me get a piece of paper lol
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ama differentiate for u
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
thanks k cool coco
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so is coco checking if your differentiation is right?
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
one question. just verifying... for the secon part, everyting is raised to teh 2nd power?
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i'm guessing
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh, ok
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
umm. i suck @ algebra... and i think i am going to mess up if i do this. but, i am still going to go ahead and square all that. can someone then tell me if i was right?
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeah i got completely something else than he did
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
the second is a chain and the first is just regular
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i got 2x+2yy'=2(4x+4yy'1)
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
=2x+2yy'= 8x+8yy'2
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
if you do implicit differentiation, then don't you do (for example, the first part): 2xdx+2ydy... then get all teh dx's and dy's on one side and divide so that dy/dx
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[2yy'8yy'=6x2\]
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ahh... i get it.. am so stupid! i was wondering where you got the chain rule from
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
then you can pull out y'
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i think it's\[\frac{6x2}{6y}\]
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
the  is outside parenthesis
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[(6x2)/6y\]
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
it's been a while though lol
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blah wait i messed up lol
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let me do this all over agani
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i forgot something
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
it doesn't help that i'm also trying to help two people
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok, sorry guys but i am lost lol. but i wanna know how it's done. so outkast, once you did the chain rule, did you multiply or what?
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
my chain rule was messed up lol it should be \[2x+2yy'=2(2x^2+2y^2x)(4x+4yy'1)\]
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yes that's what i got
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
then what did you do
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i'd say to combine the right side
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it's going to be ugly hahah
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dive 2xdx + 2ydy with 4xdx+4ydy...?
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
divide*
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i think you'd have to combine the right side which is a pain
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Hey, do you know is there anyway i can like mark this question so that i can come back and look @ it 2morrow?
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
no seriously?! ouch... calyne, your proff/teacher must be coldhearted to give you such a question.
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
um i think it should still be in the top left forner under notifications
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it's not that bad tho
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cococupcoffee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh, ok. thanks!
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[2x+2yy'=16x^3+16y^3y'+16x^2yy'+16y^2x12x^24y^28xyy'+2x\] \[2yy'=16x^3+16^3y'+16x^2yy'+16y^2x12x^24y^28xyy'\]
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
did you get what me and coco got about my last when you used the chain rule
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you use the chain rule yeah du^2/du * du/dx first thing overall ik
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
what you multiply that whole thing by dy/dx too
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so whta did you get after you take dy/dx of both sides
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
what did you get damn
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
using the chain rule i got 2x+2yy'=2(2x^2+2y^2x)(4x+4yy'1)
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sorry i got 2x+2yy' = 2(2x^2+2y^2x) (4x + 4yy'  1)
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
alright so if you combine the terms on the right
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
is what i did ... what did you do after
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
idk that's gay
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calyne Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i tried a bunch of different stuff what was your final answer i'll tell you if it's correct nah flutter that the answer is x+1/2. is that what you got. if not we're wasting time.
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
not done yet haha
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yeah i have no idea.. even wolfram alpha has omething like my end answer
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
unless your teacher is crazy and solved for like y lol
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
wait the answer to the differentiation is that or the tangent line
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Outkast3r09 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
because if it's the tangent line my implicit differentiation may be correct
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