anonymous
  • anonymous
Find the points on the lemniscate 2(x^2 + y^2)^2 = 25(x^2 - y^2) where the tangent is horizontal. The derivative using implicit differentiation is (-4x^3 - 4xy^2 + 25x)/(4x^3 + 4x^2 y + 25y)
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anonymous
  • anonymous
leminscate is just the name of that particular type of curve but makes no difference
Mani_Jha
  • Mani_Jha
Where the tangent is horizontal, dy/dx=0 Just differentiate it and set the result equal to zero.
anonymous
  • anonymous
follow this !! cims.nyu.edu/~kiryl/Calculus/.../Smith-implicit-differentiation.pdf

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anonymous
  • anonymous
damn it i'd love to because my textbook doesn't actually explain it just provides examples but i've done lright so far anyway
anonymous
  • anonymous
but what do i do after i set it equal to zero i solve for x or y??
anonymous
  • anonymous
PLEASE HELP ME
anonymous
  • anonymous
so ok what 4(x^2 + y^2)(2x - 2yy') = 25(2x - 2yy') and then y'=0 so 4(x^2 + y^2)(2x) = 25(2x) NOW WHAT
anonymous
  • anonymous
it will give u a better explanation cims.nyu.edu/~kiryl/Calculus/.../Smith-implicit-differentiation.pdf
anonymous
  • anonymous
yeah no i can't access it i'm now allowed oh well
anonymous
  • anonymous
i don't like go to nyu maybe if you wanna download it and upload it here go for it but i can't check that url
Mani_Jha
  • Mani_Jha
Find y' from that result. Set that equal to zero Then solve for x and y.
anonymous
  • anonymous
right well that's what i did at first and either way i was stuck there too that's why i tried this
phi
  • phi
You got this 4(x^2 + y^2)(2x - 2yy') = 25(2x - 2yy') I think the 2nd factor on the left-hand side should be (2x+2y y'). So it should be 4(x^2 + y^2)(2x + 2yy') = 25(2x - 2yy') Now solve for y'
phi
  • phi
you get \[ y' = \frac{-4x^3-4xy^2+25x}{25y+4y(x^2+y^2)}=0 \] It looks like we can solve the numerator for the x values that make it zero.
anonymous
  • anonymous
show me pleasee
phi
  • phi
Are you asking how to solve for x in the expression \[ -4x^3-4xy^2+25x =0 \]
phi
  • phi
x=0 is one solution now solve \[ 4x^2+4y^2-25=0 \] moving the \( 4y^2-25 \) to the right-hand side, and dividing by 4: \[x^2= \frac{24-4y^2}{4} \]
phi
  • phi
Now try each of these x values in the original equation. Notice that x=0 results in an imaginary value for y, so we can discard that point. with x^2 substituted into the original equation, solve for y, and then find x. you should get y=±5/4
anonymous
  • anonymous
oh no i'd gotten 2x+2yy' for the second term where you said i got - btw

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