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I Agree, there should be music as a subject, i mean, lots and lots of people like music, and in that group we can disucc music and stuff...
are you kidding me i made a music study last year!!!! aghghh heres the link guys
Supporter, There should be music subject,and i'am one of people who adore music and need a subject on us ...
I think this depends on use. Music as is taught in schools relies heavily on theory and history. Is this the use case you guys are describing or do you simply want a place to share music? I think they serve very difference purposes. Take a look at the recent posts in "music study" - none of them relate to music. That being said, if the interest was for theory and history, I would love it. I'm a big theory nerd, myself.
i mean matt feury
I think that would be more useful in a forum. There is a LOT to study about music, but i doubt that it would be an active group. The questions would be a lot more about opinion :S
That's an unofficial group, and those will be leaving shortly
OH PLease keep that one!
Just that one, pretty pretty please!
I'll mod it, and bring tons of people to this website.
Unofficial groups have diluted the site and made it a lot harder to find the correct group. By removing unofficial groups and changing it to subjects, we are able to make it a more academic site, and allow for all interactions to go towards the SmartScore.
I'll mod it, and bring tons of people to this website. Correction, I'll weed out the pollution and bring students who would get so much from this whole website I'm a musician, I know a lot of musicians, and I'm in elec eng college to build music equipment.
Sorry, we don't have group mods any more. It's good to see the interest in having a music study group, and it'll definitely go into our considerations as we adjust and change OpenStudy in the coming weeks!
Actually, this is potentially one of the best ideas I've seen in a while. Music is important. It might not be as full of life and energy as the other subjects, but surely neither is "Statistics for the Behavioral Sciences"?
I understand you don't have group mods, but I'm tellin you, you're gonna make me a moderator sooner or later. I LOVE this website, and I would LOVE to jump on it every day and help weed out the trollers and spammers and spend at least 2+hrs a day contributing to this, it is AWEsome. This site has already helped me a bunch, in one day! I know others who can benefit ten times as much.
I'll have this thing open in front of me during class.
I'd find it amusing if there were some resume requirement for applying as a mod.
"Entry level moderator job. Requires 3 years experience as astronaut with NASA."
I've been a site mod before, on a biochem and chem eng forum.
I know what comes with the title. And if this site includes a music engineer topic, I will denounce all other social networking.
"Impressive dedication to work, I see. Oh, what's that, you have a PhD? No, sorry, you can't apply. We can't afford PhD's."
...I can already see a handful of people that need a good BAN, after an embarrassing warning or two.
"Abuse of power? Are you sure you don't want to apply for Law School?"
Aw c'mon, I know I'm begging. I appreciate the sardonic anecdotes though... ^^^
"So, here's the big question. How many figures in your salary do you want?"
two zeroes. $0.0
"You may be better off getting another PhD; maybe in art history, if you're okay with making no money."
I'm good with math, GREAT with writing, 3rd yr electronic eng student, 11yr musician, and love to learn and share and teach...what more can you ask of a moderator lackie? theres my resume. Updates to follow in the form of overall participation.
DoubleE major? Hmmm.... :P Those are in high demand, aren't they?
I'm curious, what instruments do you play? And as a 3rd year doubleE, you could be really helpful over in the math section knowing how to Fourier transform circuit matrices. Your account also looks fairly new. But you don't talk much like you're new here?
Apparently they are, I make enough to support myself and 2 children and go to school and contribute to this epic website, and play/record music recreationally.
I've been contributing here and there in math, but believe it or not, polynomials escape me entirely. The basic functions of math are obscured by BOOLEAN ALGEBRA and the higher forms of compusion.
Double E major?! Why not not Double E augmented?!
as for instruments, just givev me one, I'll jam somethin out.
@Dyiliq Your assignment is to transcribe Franz Liszt's No. 4 Grand Etude for a solo guitar. :D @mattfeury Thanks, I really needed three high expectations Asian fathers. My brain, my Dad, and some stranger on the internet.
Ok. Will you take that in tabliture, or sheet music? Six-string or seven?
lol if you ever do complete that, submit it to http://imslp.org/ ; we need more men who are multitalented :( im only capable at piano, so I'm sad to see certain pieces never get transcribed from orchestra
Piano-guitar is easy, providing you don't mind an oblique mesh between bass and treble. You should try Piano to Bassoon
I am yr brain and yr dad. On a real note @Dyiliq, glad to see you're interested. I'm interested in the group myself, but I feel it would quickly devolve into sharing of youtube videos and other off-topic help. e.g. "help me write a rap song omg lol" We'll consider it though.
ps @darthsid plays a mean classical guitar.
@darthsid 's next project is to play a transcribed Rachmaninoff's piece, and post it here :D
I enjoy my classical guitar, but right now I must focus on my studies. :(
No learning new instruments for me!
Lol, I can't read anything that involves more than the open strings.
If I become moderator, the sharing of music would only be limited to User Originals; otherwise excused as references to parts of music to make a point, or likewise reasoning.
The kind of music study would be music theory, styles, collaboration, using recording software, using live sound equipment, etc. You know, the kind of stuff people SHOULD be studying if they are interested in music.
I feel like most people listen to music while on OpenStudy as is; why not have a section dedicated to the "backseat driver" of studying?
I don't see a problem with posts like, "Lovely Cziffra piece http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOqRn2KkADw&feature=related ."
Or, I suppose, "grEAT SoNg bY NICKI MINAJ MY GIRL." I guess I shouldn't be biased against those modern pop-rap fusions. Or whatever they're called.
That would go in another group, sir. The goup I'm talking about would refer to a timeframe in that piece that highlights the meaning of "Crescendo, or Decrescendo, or pizzicato, andante" or a piece that defines a "slide" as opposed to a "hammeron"
Or maybe comparisons of live recording with this amp as opposed to that one
walkthroughs on using complex recording software
drawing the line at becoming a billboard for record labels and "up and coming" artists who wanna give their "shout-out" about their "gig"
spam, spam and spam... BANNED
The latter would never come here. I am so sure of it.
I have never been more sure of anything in my life, except the part where I wanted to be a pirate astronaut.
Look at that 'music study' group now.....bieberlove? seriously? This guy is fighting me on how irrelevant and toxic his input is. What's more, is that he is being egged on by a couple other people. Still sure of it?
Doesn't seem like that group exists...?
oooh if I were moddy mod...
@shadowfiend I couldn't find "Music Study" in group search because I capitalized, and the group didn't. Sounds really gimmicky, to have a search engine that recognizes capital letters.
@Dyiliq OpenStudy, I feel, is not nearly as strict as you sound like you'd be. ;)
No, you shouldn't be able to find it at all. Music Study isn't an official group, so it should be inaccessible unless you have a direct link (like the one above) ;)
I know, but there are some places to draw a line, and the first post there by changethepursuit or whatever nails it. It deserves a warning. Need mods to keep this place in gear, getting their LEARN on.
Ah, okay. I jump to conclusions, sometimes. More often than not, I don't see where I land.
Sounds like the question I'd ask on such a board would be, "I really liked playing Chopin's Mazurka Op. 1 No. 6, what else would I like?"
That's a good one too, musical influence. Just as long as the youtube DJ doesn't pop on and spawn 100 other little DJs
Sounds like a terrifying movie that Ridley Scott should direct.
"In space, no one can hear you sing."
"Underwater, the low B can cause bowel movements"
aka 'the brown note'
i think we should have a music group!!
If music can claim a position for itself, then I believe Statistics can claim one too.
I don't see why not... It's a pretty dark corner of the math world, but some people can still see down there.
More than just a corner, these days statistics is a subject by its own right.
You know, you're definitely right about that. Statistics has taken a whole new field of science with Analytics.
My research interests are mathematical statistics. :D I'm not biased when I say it's the best field of study.
I think from what i see that there are enough supports for a new Music Subject :)
You got it, broseph.
if they take away music study i probably would leave.
Laura make this a subject now theses people all commented for this subject to be published
this is going to be long...
Thats Laura*, don't forget.
watch it be like two words...
The group is still open, and the people who I thought had abandoned it are flocking back it seems.
@jasonsmart Thankfully, in the 'music study' group that we have for now, the SPAM and GOSSIP/FLIRTING 'threads' are self evident and thereby completely avoidable; while the genuine learning/sharing Q&A's are also self-evident and easy to spot.
Hey guys, I see a lot of interesting chatter in here, so a few things: 1. The unofficial groups are incredibly numerous and thus it is impossible for the moderators to look at all of them and moderate all of the time. We focus our time and energies on the the official groups and rely on our users to report abuse when they see it in other groups. Frankly, we can't be everywhere at once. If you have an issue with any post in the official or unofficial subjects, let us know. 2. The unofficial groups are slowly being taken down, so, @jasonsmart, be aware of that. These unofficial groups also do not count towards your SmartScore, and will not. We are creating an academic site, and part of that is focusing on our official subjects. 3. Currently there are no plans to create new official subjects, as far as I know. It might be germinating in someone else's head and thus this may change in a week, based on the reaction to the SmartScore and where we think the site needs to go. OpenStudy is pretty fluid. At this point in time, 4 of the admins/site staff (3 of the 4 are our major music geeks, for the record) have seen this group, so we're very aware of the interest for a music study group along with the interest in a statistics group. We will continue to discuss and debate, but, ultimately, it comes down to what is good for the site. If this changes, we will announce it. Thanks for the interest!!
so we cant share music anymore?
there are a lot of useless official groups, just saying :)
It doesn't look like you guys have any immediate plans, or the music study group would have been removed in the site update...right? /crosses fingers and prays to the lloyd
music study has been around for the longest time though and its not useless i have found and shared tons of music and i have also helped/been helped with plenty of intrument questions and singing questions. i will fight for music study.
So far, I can count 3 users who will use the group as intended, as well as a few moderators. If I can be convinced that the group will stay operational, I know about 100 people who would use it, and the rest of this site religiously and righteously.
The users/mods are people I don't know. I've already got a few folks peeking in on OpenStudy, seeing whats up...
people that I know personally
can we strike a deal? or is the fate of music study all said and done
OK, no problem, statistics will be waiting outside the door of OpenStudy, until you let it in. It has a lot of patience otherwise it couldn't have told us, what is the result of tossing a coin even more than a million times, even more than a billion times......
It would be gone already if it were decided so...
jason a new one is going to be published
Laura iv made this post trying to convince u to publish a music subject
Statistics technically is under the mathematics umbrella. If we created a new music study subject, it would be started from scratch, I'm assuming. We haven't created any new OS ones in a while. We're constantly evaluating and reevaluating, so I can't say for sure when unofficial groups will be deleted. I love seeing the interest, and think of this as a petition, but we're keeping you updated on what's going on from the site's perspective. OS is largely user-driven.
Ok thx Laura :)
I think the key thing to observe about the music study group right now is that it has an extremely low signal to noise ratio. Most of the stuff on there has little to do with music study—though it does have to do with music. This is the problem with most of the unofficial groups, because there is little moderation.
little to nothing**
It seems like I'm the only one who is trying to keep it oriented at a user-level (no you-tube DJ) geared towards sharing, collaborating, learning, and expanding. Musicians would love to see a site where they can go ask "Hey has anyone had experience using a KORG5520 with a MIDI? I'm having some problems integrating..."
This is an applicable field of study. I get paid regularly to assemble stage equipment, sometimes in configurations that the musicians playing them aren't even accustomed to.
Oh no, I agree. I'm not saying such a group would be by definition bad, I'm saying it's a good illustration of the difficulty of moderating groups like that. I want to get to a point where a group like that could self-moderate fairly decently, but until we're there, we have to be careful not to overstretch the moderator resources we already have.
Definetly! Music teaches us alot and it's not just a hobby. Total supporter!!!
Just how interested are you, @Rain4me ? Do you support it enough to be involved in it, as I described it above?
Yeah,. Like I said, music isnt just a hobby for fun...it can actually teach you alot and even help you through tough times. Ive always been involved in music I play the piano myself. I think everyone should have a chance to be involved too:)
There was an unofficial group earlier, but presently nothing like that I guess. But yea , it would be great , if it will get a green signal.
@anjali_pant there is a music group. Here: