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shadowfiend Group Title

Music group ground rules.

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  1. shadowfiend Group Title
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    Hey folks, welcome to the new Music group. @Dyiliq will be group moderator for the time being.

    • 2 years ago
  2. shadowfiend Group Title
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    Of course site moderators will also be around and keeping an eye on things. Note that this group is not for talking about what music you like and what have you. As always, if you wish, you can do that in group chat. The kinds of things that *are* allowed in this group: - Discussions and questions on musical theory. - Discussions and questions on instruments, instrumentation, composition, songwriting, etc. - Posting your own original work for feedback and criticism (as usual, please be respectful). Do NOT: - Post YouTube videos for other artists. - Post SoundCloud links for other artists. - Post questions about what people's favorite genres are. Remember, this is still a study site, and we want to have a music group. We're running this experiment to see if this group can be successful; however, if things don't work out, we won't hesitate to delete the group. Thanks, and enjoy!

    • 2 years ago
  3. rebeccaskell94 Group Title
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    woohoo thanks shadow

    • 2 years ago
  4. shadowfiend Group Title
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    Please also note that we have to enforce the general site rules in this group, so posting explicit lyrics and such will not be okay.

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    it was getting kinda weird I was like...how is this music ? lol

    • 2 years ago
  6. shadowfiend Group Title
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    That decision is not up for discussion or debate. Feel free to send an email to contact@openstudy.com . We'll be looking to add one more person as group moderator in the near future depending on how active this group becomes.

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    As with other groups, no, though you may attempt to get attention to your question through the music chat as you can with other chats.

    • 2 years ago
  8. Dyiliq Group Title
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    I never got a dang ol notify for that tag, there, @shadowfiend !! @cshalvey <--->would you be the one I point this out to?

    • 2 years ago
  9. Dyiliq Group Title
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    @shadowfiend What happened to my guidelines? @cshalvey ? Anyone? Feel free to PM...

    • 2 years ago
  10. shadowfiend Group Title
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    Your guidelines? Not sure. And it's weird that you didn't get notified for the tag. We'll have a look.

    • 2 years ago
  11. Dyiliq Group Title
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    As this is where a great deal of my expertise lies, I'll encourage questions on the following: "music equipment guidance and repair", "live sound engineering", and "recording and production technique", @shadowfiend if there are any disagreements , there's that little red word in the bottom right corner----->

    • 2 years ago
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    wat the heck =[ shadow u shouldn't be so bossy u act like u own this whole entire site. like HELLO! fall back and jasonsmart is right ur acting so mean u shouldn't be telling other people wat to do. i understand its ur job but u act like the boss and we need to be disciplined

    • 2 years ago
  13. shadowfiend Group Title
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    We set the ground rules out clearly because it's easy to misinterpret the music group as something that isn't focused on learning, but it *is* focused on learning. Basically, we wanted to make sure that everyone knew the expectations so that if and when moderators felt the need to take action, the reasons would be clear. That is all.

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  14. april115 Group Title
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    ok i have a better understanding.

    • 2 years ago
  15. rebeccaskell94 Group Title
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    Thanks @shadowfiend

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  16. Susan9419 Group Title
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    but music cant have restrictions!!!

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  17. farmdawgnation Group Title
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    Maybe not, but music group can.

    • 2 years ago
  18. Susan9419 Group Title
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    but, your putting restrictions on everybody's songs/ raps so how can they find out if its truly good if the words are all being blocked?

    • 2 years ago
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    Consider it a challenge to be more creative in their lyrics. If they feel the CoC is stifling their creativity, they can go elsewhere. Music group isn't exactly what this site is built for anyway.

    • 2 years ago
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    FYI: Dyiliq is no longer the topic mod. There is none at this time. However, all site mods will enforce this set of rules, as laid out by the Admins when the Music subject area was created.

    • 19 days ago
  21. Walkerman15 Group Title
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    This thing is old. XD

    • 19 days ago
  22. TheSmartOne Group Title
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    For a second I thought @shadowfiend was active again.

    • 19 days ago
  23. Joel_the_boss Group Title
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    @TheSmartOne As did I.

    • 19 days ago
  24. TheSmartOne Group Title
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    He should come back... We need more mods...

    • 19 days ago
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    i have one thing to say this site would not be anything without us so if you want to take away the music group we will take over another one and still post things about music and you cannot take away freedom of speech

    • 19 days ago
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    @okagurao well actually, yes we would like for everyone that's posting their "lyrics" to try posting it into the Writing or English section instead. and we won't be taking away the music group anytime soon, just taking the chatter out of it. like suspending people that use derogatory or suggestive phrases in their "rap battles" and freedom of speech is an American thing, we've got plenty of people from all around the world :P and @e.mccormick how and why did you find this post from way back when???

    • 19 days ago
  27. e.mccormick Group Title
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    @okagurao "i have one thing to say this site would not be anything without us" That is an ambiguous argument. See, you have a site with specific goals. Now, you have people that help reach those goals and you have people that abuse the site. If the site owners got rid of every person in the second group, it would be a lot easier to reach those goals. So actually, the site would e a lot better without people that abuse the rules. Then what would be left are people seeking an education, which would make the site great. "if you want to take away the music group we will take over another one and still post things about music" That is a threat. Do you really want to be banned? I mean, you are threatening criminal action. Did you ever think about the agreements you made when you came on this site? See, you break them, and you get suspended or banned. Come on anyway and then you fall into a CFAA violation that has both criminal and civil consequences. Why not follow the rules instead? "you cannot take away freedom of speech" What freedom of speech? Have you actually read the law? Ever heard of a non disclosure agreement? Perfectly legal. Ever heard of employees being fired for swearing at customers? Perfectly legal. Freedom of speech and the press is only applied when the government tries to suppress truths that are not an issue of national security. All of this comes from two parts of the Constitution of the United States of America, and there are similar doctrines in other countries. Fist, they have the right to make all laws as needed: "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." Second, there are some laws they can not make, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." OpenStudy is \(\textbf{not}\) congress. Therefore, if they want to make a rule about what goes on their web site, they can. It is 100% legal. Also, liable and slander laws have existed forever. Why? Because these are not seen as free speech or free press. They are seen as lies, fraud, etc. Therefore, there are even limits on free speech that go all the way back to the Constitution and the founders. Before you quote law, you need to learn what it means. In this case, it does not even apply. A corporation has every legal right to restrict what content is put on its web site. They have everyone who uses the site agree to follow that rule. If users don't like it, they are perfectly free not to use the site and to go elsewhere. @jigglypuff314 "how and why did you find this post from way back when??? " Easily and because some people simply do not get the origin of the rules. It was not something the moderators just came up with. These are the site administrators at the time the music group was made and they were laying out very clear intentions for the music group. They want it used for music education topics. Period. "well actually, yes we would like for everyone that's posting their "lyrics" to try posting it into the Writing or English section instead. " Incorrect. As Shadowfiend pointed out, the "Posting your own original work for feedback and criticism" is allowed. It comes down to what is education in a formal topic. Rap Battles are not allowed because they are not a formal topic. However, the creation of original work is something taught in school. However, if a person is just doing lyric after lyric, without ever completing the piece, it can eventually be seen as just spamming. This is because it is not really an original work if you never finish it. It is also not furthering studies if you never take things to completion. The rules for language use, etc. apply. So if some lyrics are of an explicit nature, this is the wrong site for it.

    • 18 days ago
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    @e.mccormick your perspective on such topics are so different from mine it is very enlightening, thank you. :) hope you won't mind if I quote parts of your wonderful lecture :3

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