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Open House - A proposed group where regular users meet with at least the majority (if not all) mods/staff/owners at a scheduled time to discuss OS related issues at least once a week.
@shadowfiend @blues @amistre64 @myininaya @Preetha @chris @farmdawgnation @Owlfred @cshalvey @TranceNova @dpflan @asnaseer @mattfeury @Laura*
@Hero Interesting idea, though this group allows an asynchronous 'Open House.' Having it live would certainly yield more dynamic discussion. What would be discussed in these 'Open Houses?' I'd imagine it'd just like the purpose of this group, but more interactive...
Hi Hero, I do like the idea. We had been doing that in the Math or feedback group about once a week or so - but we've gotten away from it. @dpflan I think Hero means to compliment this asynchronous variety
Yes, basically, in my mind, the initial poster would present a recent list of improvements, issues and yes the goal is a more dynamic discussion of such topics.
@Hero , we'll do that @Preetha @cshalvey can you please make sure this happens? Not all team members may attend, and the time may shift from week to week to accomodate different timezones, but let's back into the habit.
So @Hero while I have you hear. Suggestions on how to not devalue medals but allow more types of validation? Ideas discussed internally include multiple types of medals (e.g. one gold "best answer" medal along with the normal "helpful" medals), or allow each user to give as many medals as they please, but basically the overall point total (SmartScore points) is distributed amongst the medals given. e.g. I give 2 medals, each is worth 1/2
and hearing :p
I'll have to think about it myself. I don't have an immediate answer to the medal idea, but for now, giving more weight to those that are higher rank I believe would be appropriate Maybe a system of 10 (I don't know exactly what 10 would mean) but basically, I'm thinking something like this Weight: 10 - Guru 9 - Champion 8 - Mentor 6 - Lifesavior . . . 1 - Hatchling Something like that.
I don't know if that's what you're looking for, but that's an idea I had in mind.
Yeah actually that's already built into the system. e.g. medals from high level users are worth 3x of those from others. Medals from the asker are worth most (just above medal from a high level user, with high level defined as SmartScore > 80).
I think the main issue right now is, even though all contributions are weighted (you get points for just answering), it's just not the same fuzzy feeling as receiving a medal, and those that help aren't feeling as validated.
Of course, if this was an Open House setting, we'd pick a topic like this to discuss and more people would give their ideas. Also, perhaps scheduling an Open House and detailing a possible list of things to be discussed would be perfect because then, users and mods alike would have time to think about how to properly implement such ideas.
Right, good suggestion - have an agenda of topic(s)
Anyway man, thanks for the suggestion. We'll get on it and hold the first one this week. If you have anything concrete in the meantime you know the UAC and this group are all ears, even if it doesn't always seem that way. Feedback is discussed a lot more internally than is made public.
Sounds great Chris =]
Great idea, we really need to discuss some *major* issues with the mods, and a pre-fixed time for a meeting would be ideal. @chris I had posted a feedback on the medal system a couple of days back. Please check that out if you'd like.
I believe that people have ideas to improve open study, but sometimes they might get shot down or ignored if a mod or staff has a limited point of view concerning it. If the idea is presented to at least one mod/staff/owner, I believe a more full-circle point of view will result. The more people, the better of course.
How will the Openstudiers be informed of the time this meeting will take place?
There will be a general message notif. when we log on(like the one we get when the page is about to restart maybe?)
Basically, when it comes to ideas or improvements, I don't believe that the final decision regarding implementation should be left in the hands of one particular mod, but rather, the dynamic should be more of a majority decision type of thing, something that both sides can agree to.
Yes, we'll use an application notice. Also - feedback for a specific feature is never in the hands of one particular mod - if that's the perception then that's a separate issue. Not that this is the root cause - but please don't mistake a mod explaining the current reasoning behind a feature/decision for "that's the way it's going to be and your feedback is not valued". You can see that as often as we evolve the site we're not tied to any one interpretation of a mechanic =). Feedback is heard, and we evolve as soon as we think we have enough information, and explain the current rationale to solicit even more feedback and understanding, not to close the issue.
@apoorvk checking out your previous suggestion.
@chris , I know you see it as a separate issue, however, I had a discussion with a mod regarding an implementation improvement, and his response had the feel of a "decision in the hands of one particular mod" so this Open House idea was inspired by way of that experience.
OK @Hero , well feel free to PM me details. That's not the intent or actual process.
Like I said, I know it wasn't the way it appeared to be, but it did feel that way.
I would like to participate :) Even if only to be a fly on the wall.
Great idea @Hero
Hey everyone - first off, I do like the idea of the 'Open House' setting, and I can take care of scheduling that starting next week. As @chris mentioned, we'll definitely have to adjust the timing on a week to week basis to allow as many users in various timezones to contribute. Also, in terms of 'one mod decisions' - if that's the perception then I can assure you that reflects a breakdown in communication on our part. Every decision made at OpenStudy is made with as much feedback from users as possible, and more importantly, we ask for feedback *after* any changes we make (evidenced by Chris' question regarding medals/validation). Going forward, I really like the idea of a scheduled meeting time for everyone at OpenStudy, we're also exploring other methods of doing this at the same time (OpenStudy Fireside chats anyone?). Keep this discussion going, and we'll attempt to make this feedback loop as interactive and inclusive as possible. Cheers everyone!
Thanks for the support @cshalvey . And just to humbly nit-pick a little further, I think it would be a good idea to somehow either directly or indirectly gather information about what relevant ideas and issues need to be discussed in a given week. Perhaps it can be done by way of survey or some other convenient method.
Fair point @Hero - I think a logical way to at least begin this process would be to compile the major issues brought forth in the feedback group as a draft of an agenda, and leave options for other suggestions that perhaps have not been recently mentioned. Thoughts?
Sounds like a good start.
Perhaps the details still need to be worked out, but in what form would this Open House potentially be? Would it be just be a regular thread that users can reply to such as this? Or perhaps some sort of livestreaming event?
Ideally, it would be one that would include several lines of communication.
Okay, one of the issues amongst many that need to be addressed is new users that come on here, give answers, and when confronted, use the excuse that they didn't know about the Code of Conduct or Anti-Cheating Policy.
@Hero Don't you think that all of the issues in this group should be presented in a live setting? Save for those that are more trivial, of course. @KingGeorge Livestreaming event...Perhaps a skype conference between the most involved/interested people who have had gravely important feedback and/or maximum contribution to the site? [Not only speaking in terms of tenure here, because that would exclude some crucial voices.]
The use of a 'speaking-stick' like the one here, displayed above me this very moment. To let everyone else know that a response is being made.
Since Hero mentioned the Code of Conduct I just thought it might be a good idea to change it to say that moderator's names are now in purple, not green. Just a minor nit-pick.
@chris How about a simple "Grade My Solution" OS Edition Format A = Outstanding Post B = Good Post C = Average Post D = Minimal Post F = No Contribution or Giving Answers Only Simple and Effective I think.
I think that's a pretty good idea. It could potentially be be a great method to give people an accurate rating of how good their answer was. However, there's one problem in particular that might outweigh the benefits. Getting an "F" is a common nightmare among students. No matter how meaningless it is, Many students have been so deeply ingrained to hate an F, that this may be a rather unwelcome grading system.
It'll be the best rating system to never see the light of day.
It'll only ever be implemented in underground websites. =D
On the flip side, I think that people might be so motivated not to get an F, especially if the guidelines are stated clearly enough, that no one would have to issue an F except under an extreme case when a user is clearly not contributing and a reason for giving an F would be required. So giving an F could be synonymous with doing an abuse report.
I second @KingGeorge on this. An 'F' may make it sound too academic, and rob the fun out of all this. (exactly what I wanted to say earlier, @Hero )
That's what the development site is for. For beta testing things to see how they would perform under a live environment. Perhaps, as long as the system is clearly defined, users won't see it in the same light. I would imagine that it would be a simple system, clearly defined, and once again, I'll reiterate that the giving of bad grades such as an F would have to be justified similar to how abuse reports are handled.
Open House idea is really good. Not just for the development of the site but for individual development as well.We can have virtual debate , which would be timed and judged. It would be fun ! :>
@anjali_pant will do anything for a debate :P
LOL ! :D And what makes you think like that @Hero ??? :p
I like this idea! @Hero glad you bumped it!
You're a little late @rebeccaskell94 , there already was at least one Open House event held right here on Open Study. Looks like you missed it :P
Nobody told me D: I feel so unloved...-__- ha
Don't feel that way. There's been just a little mis-communication in the past. I'm sure it will get better in the future.
YAY! :D I can't wait