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lol read the book and find the answer yourself or post the book for me and i will find it for you
I did read the book, but i dont see any symbolic relationships between the two...
http://www.huxley.net/bnw/ there's the book
ok let me check it out
read this and tell me what you think
Huxley’s thirteenth chapter begins with a dialogue between Henry Foster and Lenina. Henry Foster is interested in her evening plans and recognizes her depression, but Lenina reacts very aggressive. She realizes more and more that she feels a strange attraction to the Savage. Because of this she is perplexed and does not know how to react. Fanny, Lenina’s friend and changing partner, does not understand her obsession with the Savage, telling her she can have any of millions of men, but she wants Lenina to show her feelings to the John if it would make her happier. So the struggle between Lenina and the Savage ends into a disaster: Lenina trying to seduce him and the Savage trying to resist her advances. Finally, because John admits to Lenina that he loves her so much she decides to be bold, so she barges into the Savage’s room and begins to take her clothes off, hoping to seduce the Savage. But John thinks he has to prove himself worthy, something Lenina does not understand, and resists her lustful pleas. "In Malpais," he says, "people get married." This of course is incomprehensible to Lenina who has been conditioned to one night stands and connects the feeling of love directly with physical caresses and sex. She does not understand his attempt at chivalry. The Savage even tries to quote Shakespeare, saying, "the strongest suggestion our worser genius can, shall never melt mine honour into lust." Soon the Savage begins to react violently to her advances, forcing Lenina to take refuge in the bathroom. Finally, when the Savage leaves the room, she stealthily sneaks out of the bathroom and back to her own room. Topics for analysis: -connection between love and sex in our world and in the brave new world -> reasons why Lenina and John could not have a relationship in the end although they love each other -importance of Shakespeare`s lines for the Savage -Henry Foster`s reaction when he recognizes Lenina`s depression (Jana)
Well I already know the plot, but what is the symbolic meaning of the relationship?
also here is your answer below
Lenina and John first meet each other in chapter seven when she is on a date with Bernard. She and Bernard go to the reservation where John has grown up and she is first very disgusted at the strange environment around her. The people there are dirty and stinky to her; but, when she meets John, she finds the gumption to stare at him. Lenina was smiling at him; such a nice-looking boy, she was thinking, and a really beautiful body. The blood rushed up to the young man's face; he dropped his eyes, raised them again for a moment only to find her still smiling at him, and was so much overcome that he had to turn away to pretend to be looking very hard at something on the other side of the square (137). This first meeting can certainly be contrasted with their later meeting in chapter thirteen after they have tip-toed around their feelings for awhile. Lenina decides to throw herself at the naive John and makes the first move. Sadly, he doesn't respond like she would have liked. He is not used to a woman taking control of the situation like that; plus, he wanted to court her like he saw done in his home town and in the Shakespearean plays that he read. Two totally opposite worlds collide, he calls her some very bad names, and leaves her standing there alone (233). Hence, the relationship between Lenina and John goes from basic attraction and puppy-love to a profession of feelings, and ends with a horrible miscommunication.
That's not what I was looking for but thanks for the help :)
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