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ajprincess
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Plzzz help.
the following figure shows a long wire carrying a current of 30A. The rectangular loop carries a current of 20A. Calculate the resultant force acting on the loop. Assume that a=1cm, b=8cm and l=30cm.
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ajprincess Group Title
Plzzz help. the following figure shows a long wire carrying a current of 30A. The rectangular loop carries a current of 20A. Calculate the resultant force acting on the loop. Assume that a=1cm, b=8cm and l=30cm.
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dw:1337319857835:dw
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
u mean my answer for B?
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timo86m Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I think it will involve integration.
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dw:1337320632924:dw This is to find the force on the second current conductor.
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Sorry so bad at drawing. :(
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timo86m Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ah ok i think i found it in book i wil lattach 2 files hold on
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timo86m Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
hope it helps
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Ya. it helps a lot. Bt y hav they given the value of l. It is askd to find the resultant force.
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timo86m Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i is amps. Is that what you mean?
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
No. In ur attachment the question is to fin the magnetic force on the top of the wire b. And in the equation given in the solution there is no l bt only a nd b r there. in my question the value of l is also given. I am wondering y that was given and the magnetic force askd to b found here is the resultant.
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i mean top of the wire of length b.
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timo86m Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Not sure just solve for whatever variable or convert. :) but the diagram is almost exactly the same :)
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ha k. thannnnxxxxxxxx a lot.
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ujjwal Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Is your answer equal to 0.0032 N ?
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i get a different answer. Bt can u pls show me hw u got ur answer if u dnt mind?
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ujjwal Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sure, the dw:1337350437168:dw there exists an attractive force F1 and a repulsive force F2 between the wires carrying 30 amp and 20 amp.. Calculate both forces and find their difference.. that's all..
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
which formula did u use here to find it?
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
did u round it off?
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i got the answer as 0.00315N.
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ujjwal Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
It involves large numbers.. your answer seems to be correct.. I used the relation\[F=mu _{0}I _{1} I _{2}l/2pi r \]
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ujjwal Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
what's wrong with OS? but i guess you got the relation i used...
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ajprincess Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ya. do u knw how to derive this relation from this dw:1337397048799:dw
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dw:1337397220582:dw
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ujjwal Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I guess i can't see the whole relation.. I can't see it at rightmost part.. Is there a lower limit?? It's a line integral in closed path , isn't it? why do you need limits?? I can't see the whole relation though..
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dw:1337397679038:dw
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dw:1337397784654:dw This formula is to find the force on the second conductor. Can u @Shivam_bhalla explain hw it becomes dw:1337397890531:dw. Plzzzz.
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@ajprincess , Take a look here >http://cnx.org/content/m31103/latest/
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shivam_bhalla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
The above link for magnetic field due to a wire and its derivation. Now I will explain that concept which you want me to do so.
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dw:1337353084406:dw Consider 2 parallel wires carrying current I_1 and I_2 Force exerted by wire 1 on wire 2 is F= (B_1) (I_2)(distance between two wires)
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shivam_bhalla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Sorry I wrote that in a hurry. It should be F= (B_1) (I_2)(length of wire 2) Now as in the previous link I gave to you, we see that \[B_1 = \frac { \mu_0 I_1 }{2 \pi r}\] \[F=B_1I_2(length \space of \space wire \space 2)\] \[\frac{F}{length \space of \space wire \space 2} = \frac { \mu_0 I_1 }{2 \pi r} I_2\] \[f=\frac { \mu_0 I_1I_2}{2 \pi r} \] where\[ f = \frac{F}{length \space of \space wire \space 2}\]
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Thanxxxx a lot @Shivam_bhalla
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Thanxx a lot @ujjwal
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shivam_bhalla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yw :)
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