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  • 2 years ago

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: Email verification is on its way to OpenStudy, What Does It Mean for You?

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  1. cshalvey
    • 2 years ago
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    @farmdawgnation did me the honor of writing up some notes on this important feature, scheduled for release tomorrow. I made some minor changes, but the majority is all Farmdawg... ;)

  2. cshalvey
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    Tomorrow, June 12, 2012, between 9 AM EDT and 11 AM EDT (1 PM and 3 PM UTC) we're going to be releasing a new feature on the site that will represent a significant change to the workflow for newer users. We're giving you guys a heads up about this because we do expect there to be questions about it, and we want to put this information in your hands early to prepare you in case your account is affected or you see new users asking questions about these changes. So, what's this big change we're talking about, you ask? Well, starting tomorrow, we will be requiring that all users on the site verify their email address to use the site more than three times. Until verification, a yellow reminder bar will sit fixed to the top of your pages, giving you the option to resend the email if you need to. Users who do not verify after three uses of the site will be presented with a lockout screen when they attempt to log in or return to the site requesting them to verify their email to continue using OpenStudy. Our hopes are that this will help address issues with our emails being sent to user's spam boxes. Since our goal is to cut down on how often we are perceived as spam, we will not be dispatching emails to everyone automatically to request verification. If you are locked out from the site you will be required to hit the "Re-send" email button on the lockout screen to get your verification email and regain access to your account. To make this process go a little bit smoother, we will be streamlining this process by auto-verifying users with a SmartScore >= 35 who have logged in sometime in the last two weeks. Those users will bypass the verification process altogether, and will be allowed to continue using the site as normal. However, we still encourage you to check and ensure that your email is valid, as we may start locking users out in the future if emails we send them start bouncing back to us. Please don't hesitate to reply here if you have any questions. More details about tomorrow's release will be available when the *illustrious development team posts the release notes.

  3. cshalvey
    • 2 years ago
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    *egomaniacal

  4. LifeIsADangerousGame
    • 2 years ago
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    So, if I have more that 35 on my Smartscore (and I do) I don't have to verify my account?

  5. myininaya
    • 2 years ago
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    I'm having trouble with this sentence: "Well, starting tomorrow, we will be requiring that all users on the site verify their email address to use the site more than three times." What do you mean by the part "more than three times"?

  6. myininaya
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    So we will have to verify our email more than 3 times?

  7. myininaya
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    Well by we I mean the people who haven't logged on in the past two weeks.

  8. myininaya
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    Which actually excludes me lol

  9. LifeIsADangerousGame
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    Lol I come on here almost everyday :P

  10. princeofwetlot
    • 2 years ago
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    ugh...i forgot the email addresses of my dupe accts o.O

  11. LifeIsADangerousGame
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    Isn't making dupe accounts against the rules...?

  12. rokotherodent
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    I'm fine with e-mail verification.. but what about some of the 13-14 year olds who are allowed to use Open Study, but might not be allowed to have an e-mail account yet?

  13. LifeIsADangerousGame
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    Good point!

  14. rebeccaskell94
    • 2 years ago
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    Omg I love this idea. Props.

  15. cshalvey
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    Hey everyone, hopefully I can address each of these questions. In regards to @myininaya - we mean that you can log in and use OpenStudy up to three times before you are required to verify your email address. Though, as @farmdawgnation said, it's still a good idea to verify your email address even if you don't have to - as you and @LifeIsADangerousGame don't have to (because you're >35 SmartScore). @princeofwetlot - Well, that's terribly unfortunate, and definitely not one of the outcomes we were hoping for with email verification. ;) @rokotherodent - Hmm, that's an interesting point, though in a situation like that the parent *could* give an email address in order to verify the account - which we assume wouldn't be an issue if they are already giving their child permission to use OpenStudy, and they could just unsubscribe so they didn't receive any emails. Keep the questions coming! And thank you everyone for participating!

  16. princeofwetlot
    • 2 years ago
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    so how do we verify if we have SS > 35

  17. princeofwetlot
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    i mean do we get a pop-up too?

  18. Faman39
    • 2 years ago
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    Oh, if i couldnt verify by tomorrow, my account would it be cancel or no?

  19. farmdawgnation
    • 2 years ago
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    As we mentioned previously, we don't force verification on our end. I simply meant that you may want to make sure that the email address you specified in your settings is accurate so you don't get locked out of the site when we start locking people out due to emails bouncing.

  20. Faman39
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    Or i can also do that later

  21. farmdawgnation
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    Faman, your smart score is >= 35, so you won't be required to verify.

  22. Faman39
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    no its 62

  23. farmdawgnation
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    62 >= 35

  24. Faman39
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    ok then i m good. thank you! :)

  25. princeofwetlot
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    farm is one hell of a mathematician

  26. farmdawgnation
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    It may be worth noting that most people would write >= as \(\ge\) - I'm just a programmer. ;)

  27. cshalvey
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    He's been practicing

  28. farmdawgnation
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    What can I say? I'm a talented bloke.

  29. rebeccaskell94
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    show off ;D

  30. Faman39
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    lol rebecca

  31. princeofwetlot
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    so like i was asking do the people with ss > 35 get pop-ups too?

  32. cshalvey
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    @princeofwetlot - No, you won't get a pop-up, we only ask that you make sure that your email is correct in your settings. However, your account will be unaffected (for now ;) ).

  33. farmdawgnation
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    But don't worry. If your email is fake we'll *eventually* get you, my pretty. And your little dog too. Heh. Heh. Heh. ;)

  34. Faman39
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    lol

  35. princeofwetlot
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    well all email addresses of my 20+ accounts are mine..that i can assure...i just dont access those email address very much.. and wait,,,does that mean we can put FAKE email addresses?? o.O all this time i was doing dupe accts with REAL email addresses?!!!

  36. rebeccaskell94
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    Pretty? pshh

  37. farmdawgnation
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    @princeofwetlot *innocent whistle*

  38. princeofwetlot
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    no wonder there were so many spammers

  39. princeofwetlot
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    btw..will there be other releases tomorrow aside from this?

  40. FoolForMath
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    I wholeheartedly welcome this initiative :) However, If we made the account verification mandatory for our new users (before they can use openstudy the first time) it will substantially ameliorate the trolling issue. (users trying to evade suspension by creating dummy duplicate accounts via fake email address)

  41. princeofwetlot
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    true true

  42. farmdawgnation
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    @princeofwetlot Yes, we have a handful of bugfixes coming tomorrow as well. I've been a busy developer while @mattfeury has been on vacation. ;) @FoolForMath We don't really see this primarily as an anti-troll initiative. Our goals, as they relate to email, are to make them better and to avoid them being shuffled into spam folders. Email verification achieves the second goal by making sure we're not sending email to someone who didn't ask for it. Although, this will severely limit what troll accounts can do unless they provide a legitimate email. Esp once the bounce back provision is in place.

  43. rebeccaskell94
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    Matt Feury has been slacking and leaving you to slave??? ;P Well, you are doing a great job ;D

  44. Faman39
    • 2 years ago
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    Can you guys tell me that, when we gonna get Openstudy app for andriod tablet? :)

  45. princeofwetlot
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    im a software engineer graduate of georgia tech maybe i can help!

  46. farmdawgnation
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    Apps aren't on the schedule yet. We'll be sure to give you a heads up when they are.

  47. rebeccaskell94
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    YESSSsssss I love me some app.

  48. lgbasallote
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    there's one thing i dont get though (sorry) if fake emails would just bounce back...why does one need to verify?

  49. rebeccaskell94
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    He has a point

  50. Hero
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    I'm locked out of my own email account. Now what do I do?

  51. FoolForMath
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    @lgbasallote: Why this is not a hypothetical question?

  52. satellite73
    • 2 years ago
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    wow i haven't checked my openstudy email in like two months

  53. rebeccaskell94
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    So like after the third e-mail, how are we making them confirm it?

  54. lgbasallote
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    wow i havent seen satellite73 in OpenStudy Feedback in like two months :O

  55. lgbasallote
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    and @FoolForMath last i used "hypothetical question" spurred an argument that got me in trouble :S so im avoiding it now lol

  56. rebeccaskell94
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    Wisdom prevails.

  57. FoolForMath
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    lol, From @cshalvey's answer: "Our hopes are that this will help address issues with our emails being sent to user's spam boxes. Since our goal is to cut down on how often we are perceived as spam,..." Does this answer your query?

  58. zepp
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    My OpenStudy accound is linked to my Facebook account, I didn't register with an email, how am I going to do?

  59. ParthKohli
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    Can I make one complaint related to Email here?

  60. rebeccaskell94
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    no Parth

  61. ParthKohli
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  62. rebeccaskell94
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    hahahhahha okay now you can. That was an epic comeback

  63. lgbasallote
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    i guess i'll just get it when it happens

  64. Faman39
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    Hey everyone! wow! so good to see u all together :) i feel so nice when i see my all Os friends together, cuz i love this OS family so much, together we r all another gr8 amazing family :)

  65. myininaya
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    Is this family anything like the mafia?

  66. rebeccaskell94
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    Yes, very much so.

  67. lgbasallote
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    im in yakuza sadly

  68. rebeccaskell94
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    With the bald guy leading us ;D

  69. lgbasallote
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    which is apparent frommy abald head and fluffy beard

  70. lgbasallote
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    from my bald head*

  71. rebeccaskell94
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    not you bald...well I guess you...but the purple version...

  72. ParthKohli
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    Is this supposed to be a chat box?

  73. lgbasallote
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    i am the leader of yakuza...my evil twin @cshalvey leads the mafia

  74. Faman39
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    All of you in OS and this site totally the best n rocks in everyone live:)

  75. Faman39
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    It is a blessing for people :)

  76. Faman39
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    And i m really lucky to have you and this site also very thankful for it :)

  77. Faman39
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    Lol, its a thank you message to u all n the OS too

  78. zepp
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    Where's the answer to my question up there?

  79. rebeccaskell94
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    My OpenStudy accound is linked to my Facebook account, I didn't register with an email, how am I going to do? Don't you log onto Facebook with your e-mail as a username type thing? (sort of like you can on here)

  80. ParthKohli
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    @rebeccaskell94 It checks the email account associated with your Facebook account, and then starts sending the emails.

  81. rebeccaskell94
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    That's what I figured and that wasn't my question that was Zepp's I just moved it closer to the bottom so someone else could answer if I didn't answer it accurately.

  82. lgbasallote
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    lol i expected a facebook user to answer that question haha

  83. rebeccaskell94
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    psh what ever do you mean?

  84. shadowfiend
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    Folks, do try and stay on topic. @lgbasallote , @ParthKohli , I'm looking at you. @Hero Either change the email address you have on file with us or get access to your email restored somehow. @rokotherodent A valid email is a requirement for an account on OpenStudy, whether it is a parents' email or your own.

  85. zepp
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    Yeah I do use my Yahoo! mail to log in facebook, but facebook also gives me something@facebook.com

  86. rebeccaskell94
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    Hey Shadow, how do you know if it is valid though??

  87. zepp
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    So I check my Yahoo! account?

  88. lgbasallote
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    i think you can check what email you registered with via the settings ->account settings?

  89. Faman39
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    Bye everyone, good to see you all! Carry on n Enjoy! tc :)

  90. zepp
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    Oh, I see :D

  91. Faman39
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    you all have a wonderful days and night!

  92. shadowfiend
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    something@facebook.com is a proxy address, which means it's an address that will go through facebook but ultimately go to the email facebook has for you. It's so that you don't have to give us your actual email address.

  93. shadowfiend
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    @rebeccaskell94 We know it's not valid if you fail to verify it ;)

  94. rebeccaskell94
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    Oh, duh. My bad, sorry!

  95. lgbasallote
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    there was a quote by colm some time ago about "one can only use openstudy 3 times if the account is not yet verified" <---how do you measure this? unique days logged in?

  96. Hero
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    A lot of users will be losing their accounts tomorrow

  97. myininaya
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    I was thinking each sign on counted as a time of use.

  98. ParthKohli
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    Like @SirIsaacNewton @Darwin123 @Cid-acp-pradyuman @cid-inspector-abhijeet @cid-inspector-daya @cid_sub_inspector_fredericks

  99. rebeccaskell94
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    omg yes Parth

  100. lgbasallote
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    but i think that would be unfair if *hypothetically* the site crashes and you got logged out...three times it's possible

  101. rebeccaskell94
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    That's stretching it...

  102. ParthKohli
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    We're taking the conversation to the "aww snap" thing which isn't required right now.

  103. lgbasallote
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    im not talking abt aw snap but a hypothetical situation

  104. ParthKohli
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    Then the only thing they'd do is to verify their account ;)

  105. ParthKohli
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    But what about the situation when you change your email address and then make a fake email?

  106. farmdawgnation
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    @Hero If you had read the original message in detail, you would find that you will not be locked out of your account tomorrow. You will be auto-verified. :P

  107. farmdawgnation
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    * would have found

  108. farmdawgnation
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    @ParthKohli That is a possible exploit under this first version of the email code, but as I mentioned we're going to be implementing measures in the future to lock you out if we catch you doing that. And, potentially, require you to verify each new email you set before we start sending your notifications there. These options are still being considered.

  109. farmdawgnation
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    @Hero Also worth noting, you're able to change the email associated with your account from the lockout screen. Just FYI.

  110. Hero
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    I guess auto-verification means I don't have to do anything tomorrow.

  111. farmdawgnation
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    Correct, Hero. Your account will be marked as verified without any action on your part.

  112. Faman39
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    Forgot important ones, thats y, had to come back again, lol

  113. Faman39
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    Dear wonderful moderators, u guys r truly really awesome! :)

  114. NotTim
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    Thank you. Done reading.

  115. lgbasallote
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    is there no way to force the site to force me to verify? i hate no actions lol

  116. Faman39
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    Bye now everyone :D all of you r really amazing n too gr8 ! tc

  117. Faman39
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    I know, u all r thinking that, i talk alot without any point, right? its true, i know. But what i can do. its in my nature, thats y. :) but sorry abt it

  118. Faman39
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    @cshalvey so so sorry! cuz i think i messed up in ur post .

  119. NotTim
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    I guess all possible questions are answered now right?

  120. ParthKohli
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    @annas They're auto-verifying the old users so no need to worry about it :)

  121. ParthKohli
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    lol but there'd be a lesser number of Darwins, Newtons and CID's ;)

  122. chribonn
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    Good idea

  123. mmoul18
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    ok I think that makes sense :) I just didn't want to read every reply, there were too many!!! XD

  124. lam22
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    Let me get this straight. PEople with more than 35 for their ss, they have to verify their email adress and the people with more dont ?

  125. rebeccaskell94
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    @Iam22 No, the people with a smartscore of less than 35 have to verify. The rest of us just get auto-verified.

  126. lam22
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    oh! ok thanks rebecca :)

  127. LifeIsADangerousGame
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    Yep yep, my questions are answered! Thanks!

  128. shadowfiend
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    Facebook provides us with a proxy email address when you sign up, so we can still send you emails.

  129. shadowfiend
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    You'd have to verify that email by checking the email you have associated with your facebook account.

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