anonymous
  • anonymous
There should be a rule about posting a question that has multiple choice answers. Not only will this prevent a lot of sniping that is being done but it will also prevent the asker from just guessing the answer. I'm saying that the asker is allowed to post a question but not the answers that are provided to them. Anyone agree or disagree?
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KingGeorge
  • KingGeorge
I disagree. It may prevent some answer sniping, but I think it will be a greater detriment to learning on OS to disallow that. By seeing possible solutions, helpers and askers can quickly vet their potential solutions. It is still expected of helpers to give the same level of help to questions with multiple choice and those without.
KingGeorge
  • KingGeorge
It is the users that are answer sniping that should have action taken against them, and not the askers that are posting multiple choice questions, with some exceptions of course.
farmdawgnation
  • farmdawgnation
So I've been debating this point for other reasons. Namely, I feel like a lot of multiple choice questions in other topics (i.e. biology) may be evidence of a lack of desire to understand the material. Hm.

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KingGeorge
  • KingGeorge
While I don't disagree with that, I don't think that means we should disallow the posting of multiple choice questions.
anonymous
  • anonymous
Hmm, this is a great question @Romero - and while I understand where you're coming from, I also see the value of what @KingGeorge has stated. Essentially, each and every question is unique, and its extremely hard to judge them without taking a look at: A) Context B) Behavior of asker in question. It is a difficult and complex issue, and normally in cases like these I prefer to refrain from introducing policies (no questions like this at all) that ignore these two crucial factors (in my opinion at least). I'm absolutely willing to debate this topic however, and also think it's a great discussion to be posted here - since it affects many, many users. Well done @Romero - does anyone else have any thoughts?
anonymous
  • anonymous
I think the way @Romero has asked to do it is fair enough. He's asked for a change and put a possibility on the table of how we can do it different. I like that we still ask the question but not give the possible answers. The only thing that I think would be challenging is how to implement it...
blues
  • blues
I agree that biology and groups like it do see a lot of multiple choice questions. These cause me concern because often they come from online classes and may or may not be exam questions. A "no multiple choice question" rule would be easy to implement - anyone can just write down a rule. Actually implementing it would be different to the point of impracticality. Also, I am against it because it would just alienate the very users (those who are not taking the effort to engage with the material) whom OpenStudy is designed to help. Putting up a sign, "No multiple choice questions allowed" is the lazy way out of dealing with them and sort of defeats the purpose of the whole site. Speaking as a tutor, I make a personal choice not to help people who are not willing, when asked and given the chance, to help themselves. Speaking as a moderator, we know the people who just pop answers in the groups and we go to great lengths to discourage them. In my experience, the majority of these people are new users who misunderstand the purpose of OS and think they are being helpful. The ones who know better, well, I made one so angry he left the site last week; another accused me of being a "nagging *#$%#"... That said, I think that the question asking process could possibly be made more involved and thorough - and this would, to some extent, help with this problem. It could be a pop up window with a form or series of pop windows: the question, a box which explicitly asks the person for either a tentative solution or to state what part they don't understand and want help with, a projected grade or difficulty rating perhaps. The flip side of which is making the site harder to use and less intuitive for newbies.
myininaya
  • myininaya
Also how would one get help on: Which of the following are true: (A) xy=0 implies x=0 or y=0 or both=0 (B) x-1 is a factor of x^2+1 (C) The antiderivative of 0 is constant. (D) ln(x)=1 implies x=1 (E) myininaya is the coolest.
blues
  • blues
That is a math question. You should probably post it in math...
myininaya
  • myininaya
I was trying to make a point. lol. I was saying that some questions need choices so banning all multiple questions would effect these types here.
blues
  • blues
I know. :) Somehow, I don't think I need to give you the link to the math group...
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
@myininaya Hint!! A) you equate each factor to zero to get the value of xy B) the factors for x^2 - 1 is (x+1)(x-1) C) the derivative of a constant is always 0 D) \(e^1 = 1\) E) i'm cooler (lol) hope it helped ^_^
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
@blues you wouldnt happen to be referring to my walk out on you last week are you? :( and since colm asked for opinions..i guess i can speak myself now :) personally i think multiple choice also helps the respondents (am not calling them answerers :P) know if they're going the right way. we're just humans and we have doubts too despite that we are masters of our subjects. i've responded to a lot of multiple choice questions and because of those choices i knew i was going the wrong way and gave me time to actually correct the solution i was teaching. but i do admit that a lot of multiple choice questions here that require only common sense. that is why i understnad romero's frustrations. therefore, it is not the askers' faults but the answer snipers and answer givers. of course there are also answer fiends (askers who only look for answers) and i think the best way for them is to stall them as much as possible. that..or im too sadistic. it has proven effective for me. another frustrating thing is when askers ask if their choices are right one by one. whenever they do this..i would sometimes give them a random answer (with an obvious tone of sarcasm so they know it's not the right answer) and then i walk out with style.
anonymous
  • anonymous
@lgbasallote has a point. It isn't so much the person asking that is at "fault" as it is the answer snipers... lol "and then walk out with style"? xD
anonymous
  • anonymous
Well from my experience I get annoyed when some of the askers post multiple choice questions and make no effort in trying to learn the process of answering the question because it's so easy to just pick an answer and hope it's right. I've encountered some problems where I spend a long time showing them how to solve a problem and in the end I get a response similar to "so is it A?" when it's obvious it's wrong and then they just keep guessing until they guess the right answer and someone says "yeah that's right". I think once we get more feature in OS that tutors can use then this problem will go away but for now I don't think it will stop. It doesn't happen all the time in the math section but it does get put me down when I spend great amount of time answering a question when in the end it didn't really matter. I can't wait for video/voice chat application on OS because that will make teaching so much easier.

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