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Find a power series representative of the function and determine it's interval of convergence. \[g(x)=\frac{1}{(1-x)^2}\]

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  1. TuringTest Group Title
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    so do you understand how they get the power series representation of the function in that example? http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/PowerSeriesandFunctions.aspx

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    at which point exactly do you feel lost?

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    I believe I do. I compare it to equation 2 \[\sum_{n=0}^\infty x^n=\frac{1}{1-x}\] so in this case it's \[\sum_{n=0}^\infty\] somehow I want to do this, make the equation into a similar form and substitute into the sum : |dw:1342721245413:dw|

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    but since it's (1-x)^2 I wont be able to do that as easily

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    you have to think about how to reduce the power on the bottom term. hopefully integration comes to mind as a way to do that. Thinking along the lines of the fundamental theorem of calculus though here we don't actually integrate. Instead we just identify the fact that \[\frac1{(1-x)^2}=\frac d{dx}\left(\frac1{1-x}\right)\]

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    it does require an ability to recognize certain forms, which takes getting used to.

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    so the whole idea behind the integration or finding the derivative of the function is to make the function into that simple form (equation 2)

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    of *a function

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    exactly

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    the goal is to somehow get your problem into the form\[\frac1{1-r}\]so you can represent it as a power series

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    I see

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    or\[\frac a{1-r}\]...

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    what about the R...radius of convergence

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    well you know (hopefully) that for a geometric series\[\sum_{n=1}^\infty ar^{n-1}=\frac a{1-r}~\textbf{ iff }~~\|r|<1\]

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    so we just changed the names of our variables and do an index shift to get equation 1

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    ...and let a=1 like it says

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    does this mean we assume that x is less than 1

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    if |x| is not less than 1 then the series is divergent, so the radius of convergence R is the limit as to what x can be\[|x|<R\implies-R<x<R\]means the radius of convergence for that series is \(R\)

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    in this case we know that for *any* geometric series we have from equation 1 that \[|x|<1\]and in the case of example 4 the radius of convergence is therefor 1

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    makes sense.

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    maybe a good idea is to compare it with example 3 where the radius of convergence is not 1...

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    the trick of going from\[\frac1{5-x}\to\frac15\frac1{1-\frac x5}\]is the same trick; we try to get this guy into the form in equation 1 in this case you ran say \(r=\frac x5\) and you get\[\frac15\frac1{1-r}=\sum_{n=0}^\infty r^n\]for which we know the radius of convergence is\[|r|<R\]

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    *sorry I mean\[|r|<1\]

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    so in this case in ex3 we get\[|\frac x5|<1\implies-5<x<5\]so we find the radius of convergence to be 5

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    typo above* should be a 1/5 in front of the series

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    got it. so \[r=\frac{1}{5}\] and \[\frac{1}{5} < R\] and R=1 so how did we get to \[\frac{x}{5}<1\] where did the x come from?

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    I never wrote \[r=\frac15\]I substituted\[r=\frac x5\]

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    compare\[\frac 1{1-\frac x5}~~~~~~~~~~~\frac1{1-r}\]

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    Oh I see r always equaled to \[\frac{x}{5}\] I didn't scroll up far enough

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    so we go straight to\[\frac15\frac1{1-r}\text{converges}\implies|r|<1\implies|\frac x5|<1\implies-5<x<5\implies R=5\]

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    I think it's making sense now

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    should have writtenm\[\frac15\sum_{n=0}^\infty r^n\text{converges}\implies|r|<1\implies|\frac x5|<1\]\[\implies-5<x<5\implies R=5\]

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    written*

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    It's a lot of info, and I *think* I get it now. I'll post a problem and do it, to test my understanding. I think I just have to do a problem like this once or twice for it to become second nature. But the above makes sense.

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    The same for me obviously. I just had to review it myself to get the hang of it :)

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    I'll do the problem \[\frac{3}{1-x^4}\] as far as I can and find the radius of convergence...and post it. Thanks again @TuringTest !!!!! I just went from clueless to finally getting a grip on Power series!

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    Thank you so much that wonderful comment. The real rewards go to the person who puts in the effort to learn though, so all credit to you I say :D

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