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1)People who download music eat pizza
2)You download music.
3)You eat pizza.
is this invalid,law of syllogism, or law of detachment?
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helpme123456 Group Title
1)People who download music eat pizza 2)You download music. 3)You eat pizza. is this invalid,law of syllogism, or law of detachment?
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julianassange Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I say invalid, it's not true. That is opinionated.
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helpme123456 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Thats what i thought
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qpHalcy0n Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
This is invalid. It is the fallacy of the undistributed middle. "I am a person, but I am not all people"
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sabimaru Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I think it's a perfect example of the law of detachment. says if given a>b (in this case, download music > eat pizza) someone downloads music means they are "a" so they are also by definition "b"
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helpme123456 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I think its invalid. Its optional.
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sabimaru Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
But you're not given any other information, right? it's an if/then statement... unless I'm mistaken?!
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qpHalcy0n Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
If you were to do a formal logic proof on this, it would sound more like "There exist those who when they eat pizza, they download music". To conclude the proof you would have to say "There exist at least some who when they eat pizza, download music." However, what their conclusion is saying is that "For ALL people, when they eat pizza, they download music", this is cleary false.
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qpHalcy0n Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
See: Existential instantiation/Universal instantiation for predicate logic.
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sabimaru Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
where are you getting simultaneity from though? I am no expert in logic, but I don't think the last claim is the ultimate one this is making
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julianassange Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Ooh, this seems like a civilized disagreement. *grabs popcorn
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sabimaru Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
what's your thought on the matter, @julianassange?
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julianassange Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Yes, It is simply invalid. No more further say, because once said opinionated, you can conclude that is not true as a fact, simply true as a false thought.
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helpme123456 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
This is entertaining..
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sabimaru Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I mean, I get it. I know that the set {music downloaders} is a subset of {humans} and that there is a separate subset {pizza eaters} that intersects with music downloaders.
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qpHalcy0n Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Right well ultimately there's two problems here because the events are disjoint. Eating pizza and downloading music. There's no implication. It's not implying that because I eat pizza, I download music. Second. You vs. People. You = "There exists" People = "For all" You cannot do this. You cannot say because there exists one where this is the case then it must be true for ALL.
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julianassange Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Invalid is the answer for the win!
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