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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
method for finding \(b\) in \[\frac{5x^2+20x+6}{x(x+1)^2}=\frac{a}{x}+\frac{b}{x+1}+\frac{c}{(x+1)^2}\]
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mathslover Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
in terms of a and c and x ?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
@mahmit2012 method with derivatives
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Libniz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
what's wrong with ordinary method of finding partial differential?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
@mahmit2012 had a snap method, but i don't understand it
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mathslover Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
just a question: do wolfram has solution?
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
they have something ugly...
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
we get \(a=\frac{6}{1}=6\), and \(c=\frac{9}{1}=9\) but \[b=5+0\frac{6}{(1)^2}=1\] step i don't get
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+%285x%5E2%2B20x%2B6%29+%2F+%28x%5E3%2B2x%5E2%2Bx%29
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh the original question was an integral, btw.
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
something to do with a derivative but i don't see it
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
what's your method for B
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Libniz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
is there link to where it was done in snappier way?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
looks like the method was, take \[5x^2+20x+6\] divide by \(x\) get \[5x+20+\frac{x}{6}\] take the derivative get \[5\frac{6}{x^2}\] and then evaluate at \(x=1\) why this works is going to bug me
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
but is sure is snapp!
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I think we can solve this making three equations....
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i meant did you have your own way, satellite?
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
a slower... sane approach
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i plugged in A and C.. expanded it all out... plugged in 1 for x and got B=3
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
ooooooooooooooh!!!! multiply both sides by \((x+1)^2\)!!!!!
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
but that's not right i guess
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
wowee zowee
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
how cool is that? i love it
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
@alienbrain yes i wrote my method before solved \(6+B=5\) but it required some visualization
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dw:1344137128472:dw
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
it is already solved, i was trying to understand @mahmit2012 approach
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
now i get it, maybe i can remember is @alienbrain do not multiply out, you will make an algebra mistake, it is a pain we know \(6+B=5\) and so \(B=1\)
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mahmit2012 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
dw:1344137486006:dw
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
@mahmit2012 my less sophisticated method was to visualize the coefficient of \(x^2\) as \(6+B\)
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@satellite73 are u sure your answer is correct.... because I got a=15 b=10 and c=1
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
yeah i am sure
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mahmit2012 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
dw:1344137568037:dw
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
yes i see thanks i didn't understand that you multiplied on both sides
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mahmit2012 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
dw:1344137675922:dw
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
i think i would not want to use this method if i had to take the derivative repeatedly
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mahmit2012 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
this is the shortest method to get cofficiant in partial fraction problem >
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
back, open study lagged me out
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
yeah it was getting laggy hope we have worn this topic out sufficiently we have the answer and a plethora of methods
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so 5=6 + B are you just combining like terms there
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
good thing you can't throw a math book at me:)
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
ok lets go back back back
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
we know \(A=6\)
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
first term on the left is \(A(x+1)^2=6(x+1)^2\) and we also have a term that looks like \(Bx(x+1)\)
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
whatever all the other mess is when you multiply out, the only way to get \(x^2\) is from the first term, which will give you \(6x^2\) and from the second term which will give you \(Bx^2\)
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
on the other hand we know we have to end up with \(5x^2\) that tells you \(6+B=5\) and so \(B=1\)
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok, i got it... but the method seems to vary for each letter
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i was hoping to avoid critical thinking and just be able to do it by a process :)
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
ok you can use one method if you like you can multiply this mess out and solve a 3 by 3 system, but i try to avoid that if at all possible because it is a ton of work try to look for values of \(x\) that will make everything zero obviously that will not work all the time when you have repeated factors but i find it much easier to use that method as far as i can once you have some of the constants, the others will be easier to find, even if you have a system of equations
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
if you have no repeated factors, the it always works
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
well, if they are linear
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
it is also very easy to make an algebra mistake when multiplying out and combining like terms, much few mistakes plugging in numbers and evaluating in any case if you were going to use "one method" you would have ended up with the equation \(A+B=5\) but think of how much easier if you know \(A=6\) already and we got \(A=6\) with almost no work
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
ok enough partial fractions for one night i wish @eliassaab was here to show another method it has to do with taking the limit as \(x\to \infty\) which for a rational function you can pretty much eyeball, and then determining what a constant is from that
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alienbrain Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
eh.. integral of 6/x ?
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@vishweshshrimali5
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