## calcIIIstudent 2 years ago Calc III: Determine how much work was done by an object in moving along an arc of the cycloid given by: Image attached

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I'm completely lost on this one, I don't even know what formula to use.

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|dw:1344456975045:dw| change everything into t's ... since parameter is given, it should be easy to find it.

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the other method, ... check if the field is conservative or not, if the field is conservative, the difference in the potential should give you the work done.

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Well, the field is conservative, and the parameter is 0 to pi, but what I'm not understanding is what to do with the F*dr

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for a conservative field, |dw:1344457305326:dw| isn't this definition of conservative field?

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|dw:1344457452297:dw| moreover F = -div V

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$\int\limits_C\vec F\cdot d\vec r=\int_a^b\vec F(\vec r(t))\cdot\vec r'(t)dt$I don't see where you need $$\nabla f$$ in this problem...

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on nvm

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so this is going to involve the fundamental theorem for line integrals

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Also this is a friend of mines test result (I'm studying for finals) and I have no idea what she did.

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$\int\limits_C\nabla f\cdot d\vec r=f(\vec r(b))-f(\vec r(a))$

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she did what i suggested ... first find the curl of field (to make sure that it is conservative) though it isn't necessary.

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if the field is conservative, and you know the potential ... the line integral of Field along the path (or so called work done in physics) = change in potential ...

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If finding the curl wasn't necessary, then where did she get these numbers from?

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|dw:1344458052253:dw| use those values of t's ... and find the x coordinate and y coordinate. at t=0 and t=pi

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Work is defined as$W=\int\limits_C\vec F\cdot d\vec r=\int\limits_C\nabla f\cdot d\vec r=f(\vec r(b))-f(\vec r(a))$the potential function for the conservative vector field is$f=\frac13x^3+\frac13y^3$and the line is$\vec r(t)=\langle3(t-\sin t),3(1-\cos t),\rangle$we have$\vec r(\pi)=\langle3\pi,6\rangle$$\vec r(0)=\langle0,0\rangle$

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so$W=\int\limits_C\vec F\cdot d\vec r=\int\limits_C\nabla f\cdot d\vec r=f(\vec r(\pi))-f(\vec r(0))$$\left(\frac13(3\pi)^3+\frac136^3\right)-0=9\pi^3+72$

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questions?

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this way is super easy ... if you are preparing for finals ... try to work on both methods.

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btw when I said "work is defined as" I only meant the first part of the expression$W=\int\limits_C\vec F\cdot d\vec r$the next part only follows if the force $$\vec F$$ is conservative:$W=\int\limits_C\vec F\cdot d\vec r=\int\limits_C\nabla f\cdot d\vec r=f(\vec r(b))-f(\vec r(a))$

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Sorry, my internet crashed. But yeah, that pretty much summed up all my questions. Thanks!

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