lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
i think some moderators are too formal and distant. I think they can connect better with users if they would be more conversational.
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  • schrodinger
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mathteacher1729
  • mathteacher1729
Can you elaborate on what you mean by formal and distant?
experimentX
  • experimentX
cheer up man ... let them do their job!!
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
im just stating my observation...nothing personal...

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experimentX
  • experimentX
maybe they are bored ... you know job is boring!!
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
@experimentX im not really asking why the moderators are formal and distant. nor am i seeking for an explanation or a solution/compromise. as far as im concerned, i am posting a feedback in openstudy feedback. period. nothing more; nothing less.
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
if you agree/disagree with my feedback then by all means comment. but with all due respect, please do not question my feedback (unless it's from administrators of course)
ParthKohli
  • ParthKohli
I'd like to be critical here. Don't you think that the moderators already converse with users as much they can? Also, you must remember--the moderators and administrators are busy people, never spending too much time on OpenStudy. Overall, I humbly disagree with that. Thank you.
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
i forgot to mention...what im referring to here is not the overall activity of moderators. not at all. i dont know if they converse or not with people they warn/suspend via messages. what i am just referring to here are the comments they do in posts. although there is a reason to just comment a "Din't do this. Thanks" i see no reason to be more conversational and less formal too. after all, what they're doing is public; seen by everyone.
ParthKohli
  • ParthKohli
Let me mention an incident. A user had[and s(he) still does] a picture which is not right for the community. I requested him/her informally to change her picture. The next thing I had to tackle is a bunch of "lol's".
myininaya
  • myininaya
So is the following comment too formal and distant? Also I really don't think I seem distant and if so I'm sorry. For the formal part, I think it is good practice to write complete sentences. I haven't always done that on OpenStudy. I like to go back and understand what I wrote. This practice will be good for other things outside of OpenStudy. :) However, there are times when I step outside of my formal box because I'm still pretty used to being on the outsides.
ParthKohli
  • ParthKohli
Nope, it is not a formal and distant comment, and that is exactly how all the moderators talk. I fail to understand what lgba is pointing out.
anonymous
  • anonymous
Mods and Admins are in charge of this place. They have to warn and ban people so they have to be impartial when they make these types of decisions. Being formal and professional is their job. They have to treat us as if they have no souls.
ParthKohli
  • ParthKohli
Actually, it's not just LGB. People have associated the "formal tone" with being an administrator. My language has a formal tone and people have started commenting--"You talk like an admin."
myininaya
  • myininaya
Also I do try to chat it up with you guys in chat but sometimes I'm doing other things. Do I not? (There are also other times when I see administrators and other moderators chatting it up.) Moderators are not actually in charge of this place. Hello! I'm a moderator. Administrators are the one's who are in charge of this place. They need moderators and others though to help keep order. You know make sure the Code of Conduct is followed. For the moderators, I would not call it a job. It is more like volunteer work for a place they like to come to. For the administrators, it is part of there job to moderate the website (but not their only job). We have souls! :( I actually find it very hard sometimes to take any action, because I do like you guys so much. However, I do what I think the Code of Conduct would see fit for the situation.
ParthKohli
  • ParthKohli
Wish I was as loyal as Goddess Of Myininaya. :)
myininaya
  • myininaya
Also I have talked to some of the administrators of the site. And them too have souls! They have admitted sadness in seeing some go.
myininaya
  • myininaya
So I think I speak for all moderators and administrators of the website when I say we all have souls. I also bet you didn't know we were human. ;)
anonymous
  • anonymous
Speak for yourself....XD. You never know
karatechopper
  • karatechopper
Lol myin is busy busy! yet she chats all the time man!
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
These are the things these people fail (or refuse) to understand from the post: 1) it's not about all moderators 2) it's not about what they do offscreen 3) formal and distant is not bad 4( regular users shouldnt act as moderators 5) conversational way of talking will not lessen the moderators' power 6) @myininaya is a proof that moderators are still respected even when using conversational tone of speaking 7) this is just a feedback
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
no. i just added that one because parth was mentioning an incident where he was trying to be a mod and wonders why he got a bunch of "lols"
karatechopper
  • karatechopper
Ah ok sorry
anonymous
  • anonymous
You were the one who said he was acting like a mod and in my opinion he just acted like a valued user interested in the opinion of another valued user. You are acting as if your opinion is final and we shouldn't even include our opinions. If you don't want people to respond and question your opinion then just private message a mod or an admin.
ParthKohli
  • ParthKohli
Remember some points: * telling someone informally is NOT acting like a mod. Mods are formal with their actions. * i reported that user too, but i don't see anything happening yet.
lgbasallote
  • lgbasallote
@RyanL. are you reading what you wrote? "your opinion is final"? that doesnt make any sense. and like i said you are free to comment, albeit regarding the feedback; not to "why the feedback was posted". furthermore, i would like to ask you...have you ever experienced dropping your feedback in a feedback box of a local convenience store, and some random customers would ask you why you wrote that? i read the group's name as openstudy feedback, and i thought feedbacks were welcomed. i guess not.
myininaya
  • myininaya
All of your opinions matter.
experimentX
  • experimentX
and i thought i wouldn't connect better either ... lol.
mathslover
  • mathslover
As i am not a mod or admin so : i can't say " it is feedback group so you are allowed to give your opinion here. " Now , coming to the point :lgba at first i also noticed that some mods are very formal or distant .. It is just because they are super busy in the bunch of other stuff going on, and are only on site briefly due to that. personal matters also matters (alliteration :D) .. May be they are bored or angry regarding some other offences may be in the site or out of the world of internet? Being realistic is better .. Put yourself there .. if you are angry with your friends .. Would you like to talk informally or chat with the users? No!! It is just because "emotions" .. Well i am not sure but yes i think you are talking mainly about admins though , 1-2 mods are there who are of higher rank or are professors or are engaged in some other work.. The basis of my whole article / response is "they are busy with their work , personal matters , mood , temparament , personality etc. " I have been critical in this sens till now .. the points raised up by @ParthKohli and @myininaya are absolutely right. They generally ban users / suspend or warn .. So their image becomes some what rude .. may be i am wrong but yes internally it happens ...they have to be formal for that.. Being distant absolutely means that they never come to chat or don't talk generally .. That is because of boredom? pending work? etc. Tired? Well, right you must be tired by reading that all .. This article is particularly based on my saying that humans are not robots that they can do their work in seconds in a same mood . They have feelings , have emotions , have expressions and what they do? they just express it. Please don't take this one as offensive or anything else. But yes take it positively . "Hard work and mood depends " sorry : if i am wrong with anything but this is just my opinion .:)
ParthKohli
  • ParthKohli
Appreciable observations raised by @mathslover.
mathslover
  • mathslover
May be i am wrong but yes ... thanks @ParthKohli
amistre64
  • amistre64
so now that i have gotten all the way down to the end of this thing, I forgot what it was yall was talking about to begin with .... let me adjust my monocle a smidge.
shadowfiend
  • shadowfiend
Heh amistre… I do have some legit responses though: First off, more out of curiosity than anything else, I think we'd appreciate it if you could name those mods by email to us (use abuse@openstudy.com, as it will send to the right people). We won't be taking any sort of action, but it'll be interesting to compare their interactions with those of others to see where they differ and see how people react to them. Secondly, what often comes off as “formal” on the Internet is, sadly, often simply being well-spoken. Whether or not the remark is addressed to me amongst others, I know I try to keep my speech and writing elevated, in complete sentences, etc. All that said, keep in mind that different moderators have different motivations for being on the site. Some are mostly here to help, others are here to mingle. We think both approaches are valuable, and of moderators we only ask that they enforce the code of conduct. We haven't seen any instances where moderators have failed to do that when taking action, so if you see any such instance, please do let us know. Every mistake any of us makes is a good opportunity for us to adjust and educate the mods on how to react in certain situations. “if you agree/disagree with my feedback then by all means comment. but with all due respect, please do not question my feedback (unless it's from administrators of course)” This reminds me of some remarks made a couple of weeks ago in another feedback thread, and I will tell you the same thing I said then (roughly): if you post feedback, expect debate. If you aren't willing to debate, feel free not to post again on a given feedback thread. But expect people to agree and people to disagree, and expect to have to defend your point of view—not only from questions admins may ask, but also from those other users may ask. Insofar as this group is a democratic way to present ideas to the OpenStudy team, democracy does not involve random insertion of thoughts with no reaction. It involves debate, discussion, and ultimately consensus—not only among leaders, but also amongst a populace.

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