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  1. Compassionate
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    Nothing can only created nothing, before the universe began something must have always existed. Its energy, enery is eternal the 1st law of thermodynamics confirms that. the law states 'energy cannot be created or destroyed" No begining or end thats the definition of "Eternal" You also cant claim this energy has always existed in the universe because science has proven the universe didn't always exist. "The universe and time didn't always exist"-Stephen hawkings, The energy source that was present before the universe began had to have power beyond anything we can imagen. Considering it had to tranfer its energy unto TRILLIONS of stars and BILlIONS of galaxies. A seperate eternal energy source that existed outside the universe had to had supplied or tranfered its energy into the universe. (because we know the universe didn't always exist) Its not unreasonable so assume this enormous energy was god. Listen we have two options to resonably determine what this power was. It could be dumb unconcious vague energy sources However this seems completelly illogical considereding we have observed complexity.Order and Design throughout the universe. the most logical answer would be that a intelligent mind constructed the universe, or a GOD

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    Basic concept here is that Nothing can me made its Own...) God is a Energy can be neither created nor Destroyed..))

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    The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of ‘smoke’ (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition).[1] This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that ‘smoke’

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    The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that ‘smoke’ material. God has said in the Quran: “Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke...” (Quran 41:11) Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same ‘smoke,’ we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous ‘smoke,’ they formed and separated from each other. God has said in the Quran: “Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?...” (Quran 21:30)

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    Dr. Alfred Kroner is one of the world’s renowned geologists. He is Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany. He said: “Thinking where Muhammad came from . . . I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years, with very complicated and advanced technological methods, that this is the case.”[2. Also he said: “Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin.

  6. Yahoo!
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    It Does not means that Prophet Muhammad is God....It means He is the messager of God..and "Quran" is the words of God.

  7. Yahoo!
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    @Compassionate i need ur comments here Plzz....

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    I would have too agree with you. The amazing thing is that the Quran was written 2,000 years before the scientific age. So how could it possibly have any science in it?

  9. Yahoo!
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    Do..u Knw Hw Iron is Formed...))

  10. Yahoo!
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    the intresting fact is that...Iron like any other element is not Formed in the surface of earth it is from Stars and sun

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    One scientific source provides the following information on this subject: “There is also evidence for older supernova events: Enhanced levels of iron-60 in deep-sea sediments have been interpreted as indications that a supernova explosion occurred within 90 light-years of the sun about 5 million years ago. Iron-60 is a radioactive isotope of iron, formed in supernova explosions, which decays with a half life of 1.5 million years. An enhanced presence of this isotope in a geologic layer indicates the recent nucleosynthesis of elements nearby in space and their subsequent transport to the earth (perhaps as part of dust grains).”[3] All this shows that iron did not form on the Earth, but was carried from Supernovas, and was "sent down," as stated in the verse. It is clear that this fact could not have been known in the 7th century, when the Quran was revealed.

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    and this is mentioned in the QURAN Iron is one of the elements highlighted in the Quran. In the chapter known Al-Hadeed, meaning Iron, we are informed: “And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind…” (Quran 57:25)

  13. Yahoo!
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    @hba

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    The last verse gave gives alot of scientific thinking on how dinosaurs died :)

  15. hba
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    @Compassionate What is the topic we are discussing here :)

  16. Yahoo!
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    Do u knw the stages of man’s embryonic development:?

  17. Yahoo!
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    http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/216/

  18. Yahoo!
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    “We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)…” (Quran 23:12-14)

  19. Yahoo!
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    and the scientist find this..)) Correct..

  20. hba
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    Well yeah :)

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    and there are many more evidence...) JUST THINK.....HOW DO A PERSON CAN TELL THESE THINGS IN 7TH CENTURY.....AND THIS PROVES THAT QURAN IS GODS WORD..)) BECOZ..ONLY THE CREATOR CAN TELL ABT HIS CREATIONS

  22. Yahoo!
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    @Compassionate r u there.!

  23. Compassionate
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    I've been reading.

  24. Yahoo!
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    ok...)

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    @eliassaab @cwrw238

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    @badgurl24

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    @Lgbassolate

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    @jazy

  29. Yahoo!
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    @lindseyharrison just read this u will understand

  30. Yahoo!
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    which is real truth..))

  31. Yahoo!
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    @hba @ghazi

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    @Daish96

  33. Yahoo!
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    Plzz..read this thread..))

  34. ghazi
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    @Yahoo! i would suggest you to stop this..please....else it'll put you in danger

  35. Daish96
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    wat are we tlking about lol

  36. Daish96
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    i'm sorry but i'm not getting myself into this cuz i believe in jesus christ my lord and savior and i believe he is the only way to get to heaven and that's all i got to say and btw don't judge me.

  37. Yahoo!
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    lol....i told u to just read,,,,i am not forcing u that ur religion is wrong or...u should believe in islam..just read sister

  38. lindseyharrison
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    @Daish96 Totally agree with you!!! Right there with ya

  39. Yahoo!
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    u see sisters i am just telling u to read..))

  40. lindseyharrison
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    why do you keep calling us sisters? and i'm not getting myself into this.. you know what i believe..

  41. Yahoo!
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    Dont...be rude...)) i knw ur belief....nw tell me abt this thread

  42. lindseyharrison
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    i'm not being rude...

  43. lindseyharrison
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    I don't want to get into any of this

  44. Yahoo!
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    then..its ur wish...thxx...for..being...and responding..)

  45. monokerous
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    What I find really interesting is that following the OP's explanation, 'if' a God/Gods did exist, then someone must've created him/them and so on... :) It's like a never ending cycle of creation. That's why when I watch Gulliver's Travels (Jack Black), the giant doll house he goes in appeals to me because I kind of see my life like that. I don't know so many things. Humans don't know everything. Especially not things in the universe. We only know what we know.

  46. rajathsbhat
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    Meh. This is nonsense @Yahoo!

  47. Yahoo!
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    Why....lol

  48. rajathsbhat
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    There doesn't have to be a *God* to do that @Yahoo! . Quantum fluctuations in the early universe is enough to create it.

  49. Yahoo!
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    nop...lol...Did u read this The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of ‘smoke’ (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition).[1] This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that ‘smoke’ 2 days agoDelete 73 Yahoo! 1 The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that ‘smoke’ material. God has said in the Quran: “Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke...” (Quran 41:11) Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same ‘smoke,’ we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous ‘smoke,’ they formed and separated from each other. God has said in the Quran: “Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?...” (Quran 21:30) 2 days agoDelete 73 Yahoo! 1 Dr. Alfred Kroner is one of the world’s renowned geologists. He is Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany. He said: “Thinking where Muhammad came from . . . I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years, with very complicated and advanced technological methods, that this is the case.”[2. Also he said: “Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin.

  50. rajathsbhat
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    I don't believe what 1 mad geologist has to say. Plus geology isn't an exact science.You can't say "scientists say this" unless the whole scientific community agrees.

  51. Yahoo!
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    lol....hm...hm.... then leave it......take a luk at Abt the secreat of IRON

  52. rajathsbhat
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    What's the *secret*?

  53. Yahoo!
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    the intresting fact is that...Iron like any other element is not Formed in the surface of earth it is from Stars and sun 2 days agoDelete 73 Yahoo! 1 One scientific source provides the following information on this subject: “There is also evidence for older supernova events: Enhanced levels of iron-60 in deep-sea sediments have been interpreted as indications that a supernova explosion occurred within 90 light-years of the sun about 5 million years ago. Iron-60 is a radioactive isotope of iron, formed in supernova explosions, which decays with a half life of 1.5 million years. An enhanced presence of this isotope in a geologic layer indicates the recent nucleosynthesis of elements nearby in space and their subsequent transport to the earth (perhaps as part of dust grains).”[3] All this shows that iron did not form on the Earth, but was carried from Supernovas, and was "sent down," as stated in the verse. It is clear that this fact could not have been known in the 7th century, when the Quran was revealed. 2 days agoDelete 73 Yahoo! 1 and this is mentioned in the QURAN Iron is one of the elements highlighted in the Quran. In the chapter known Al-Hadeed, meaning Iron, we are informed: “And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind…” (Quran 57:25)

  54. Yahoo!
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    Visit http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/562/

  55. Yahoo!
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    For more info

  56. Yahoo!
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    he word “anzalna,” translated as "sent down" and used for iron in the verse, could be thought of having a metaphorical meaning to explain that iron has been given to benefit people. But, when we take into consideration the literal meaning of the word, which is, "being physically sent down from the sky, as this word usage had not been employed in the Quran except literally, like the descending of the rain or revelation, we realize that this verse implies a very significant scientific miracle. Because, modern astronomical findings have disclosed that the iron found in our world has come from giant stars in outer space.[1] Not only the iron on earth, but also the iron in the entire Solar System, comes from outer space, since the temperature in the Sun is inadequate for the formation of iron. The sun has a surface temperature of 6,000 degrees Celsius, and a core temperature of approximately 20 million degrees. Iron can only be produced in much larger stars than the Sun, where the temperature reaches a few hundred million degrees. When the amount of iron exceeds a certain level in a star, the star can no longer accommodate it, and it eventually explodes in what is called a "nova" or a "supernova." These explosions make it possible for iron to be given off into space.[2] One scientific source provides the following information on this subject: “There is also evidence for older supernova events: Enhanced levels of iron-60 in deep-sea sediments have been interpreted as indications that a supernova explosion occurred within 90 light-years of the sun about 5 million years ago. Iron-60 is a radioactive isotope of iron, formed in supernova explosions, which decays with a half life of 1.5 million years. An enhanced presence of this isotope in a geologic layer indicates the recent nucleosynthesis of elements nearby in space and their subsequent transport to the earth (perhaps as part of dust grains).”[3] All this shows that iron did not form on the Earth, but was carried from Supernovas, and was "sent down," as stated in the verse. It is clear that this fact could not have been known in the 7th century, when the Quran was revealed. Nevertheless, this fact is related in the Quran, the Word of God, Who encompasses all things in His infinite knowledge. The fact that the verse specifically mentions iron is quite astounding, considering that these discoveries were made at the end of the 20th century. In his book Nature’s Destiny, the well-known microbiologist Michael Denton emphasizes the importance of iron: “Of all the metals there is none more essential to life than iron. It is the accumulation of iron in the center of a star which triggers a supernova explosion and the subsequent scattering of the vital atoms of life throughout the cosmos. It was the drawing by gravity of iron atoms to the center of the primeval earth that generated the heat which caused the initial chemical differentiation of the earth, the outgassing of the early atmosphere, and ultimately the formation of the hydrosphere. It is molten iron in the center of the earth which, acting like a gigantic dynamo, generates the earth’s magnetic field, which in turn creates the Van Allen radiation belts that shield the earth’s surface from destructive high-energy-penetrating cosmic radiation and preserve the crucial ozone layer from cosmic ray destruction… “Without the iron atom, there would be no carbon-based life in the cosmos; no supernovae, no heating of the primitive earth, no atmosphere or hydrosphere. There would be no protective magnetic field, no Van Allen radiation belts, no ozone layer, no metal to make hemoglobin [in human blood], no metal to tame the reactivity of oxygen, and no oxidative metabolism. “The intriguing and intimate relationship between life and iron, between the red color of blood and the dying of some distant star, not only indicates the relevance of metals to biology but also the biocentricity of the cosmos…”[4] This account clearly indicates the importance of the iron atom. The fact that particular attention is drawn to iron in the Quran also emphasizes the importance of the element. Moreover, iron oxide particles were used in a cancer treatment in recent months and positive developments were observed. A team led by Dr. Andreas Jordan, at the world famous Charité Hospital in Germany, succeeded in destroying cancer cells with this new technique developed for the treatment of cancer—magnetic fluid hyperthermia (high temperature magnetic liquid). As a result of this technique, first performed on the 26-year-old Nikolaus H., no new cancer cells were observed in the patient in the following three months. This method of treatment can be summarized as follows: 1. A liquid containing iron oxide particles is injected into the tumour by means of a special syringe. These particles spread throughout the tumour cells. This liquid consists of thousands of millions of particles, 1,000 times smaller than the red blood corpuscles, of iron oxide in 1 cm3 that can easily flow through all blood vessels. [5] 2. The patient is then placed in a machine with a powerful magnetic field. 3. This magnetic field, applied externally, begins to set the iron particles in the tumour in motion. During this time the temperature in the tumour containing the iron oxide particles rises by up to 45 degrees. 4. In a few minutes the cancer cells, unable to protect themselves from the heat, are either weakened or destroyed. The tumour may then be completely eradicated with subsequent chemotherapy.[6] In this treatment it is only the cancer cells that are affected by the magnetic field, since only they contain the iron oxide particles. The spread of this technique is a major development in the treatment of this potentially lethal disease. Iron has also been found to be a cure for people suffering from anemia. In the treatment of such a widespread diseases, the use of the expression “iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind” (Quran, 57:25) in the Quran is particularly noteworthy. Indeed, in that verse, the Quran may be indicating the benefits of iron even for human health. (God knows best.)

  57. rajathsbhat
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    So what if it is mentioned in the Quran? I don't care. I concentrate on the parts where religious books are wrong.

  58. Yahoo!
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    just think.....

  59. Yahoo!
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    u certainly have to luk whether they r correct or not

  60. Yahoo!
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    In 7th century... Can anyone tell abt this..))

  61. Yahoo!
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    Not...only....Iron....many r there......

  62. Yahoo!
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    Visit My thread to see..it

  63. rajathsbhat
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    hey, does Quran explain Quantum Mechanics? Tell yes & I'll be impressed.

  64. hba
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    Well it explains alot on how dinosaurs died

  65. rajathsbhat
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    What about nanotechnology, huh?

  66. hba
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5h6CNhtVls

  67. rajathsbhat
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    2 hr video. No way.

  68. Yahoo!
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    lol....can u show...these things in any of the religious books....u may not....becoz....God only Kws abt his Creations...

  69. Yahoo!
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    @rajathsbhat i suggest u to visit : http://www.islamreligion.com/category/34/

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    u will...find ...))

  71. rajathsbhat
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    NO THANK YOU.

  72. Yahoo!
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    Why...

  73. rajathsbhat
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    i don't wanna waste my time.

  74. rajathsbhat
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    Anyway this thread is too long & i am experiencing some serious lag.

  75. Yahoo!
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    lol....to knw the truth....u may have to....i suggest pplzz do visit that website

  76. rajathsbhat
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    that ain't truth Yahoo! & don't try to convert me into a Muslim because you can't :P

  77. Yahoo!
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    lol....i am not forcing..u....just...luk...at it...

  78. Yahoo!
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    If u find Gud....)) u can.. and surely u will find.....if u have a will...

  79. Tombrokaw
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    What an interesting thread!

  80. Compassionate
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    Yahoo!, I appreciate your beliefs, but didn't the Muslims kill people a few days ago because they made of oh Muhammad? (Peace be with you.)

  81. hba
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    No comp you are wrong :)

  82. Compassionate
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    No, want a link?

  83. Zale101
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    Until the surah al kafroon or chapter of the disbelievers, people stopped discriminating other people because of religion. Most surat in the quran were sent from god to human beings just to warn them about their mistakes.Like this surah for example: http://englishtafsir.com/Quran/109/index.html Lol i know this post has been a year ago, i guess i'm bringing it back from the dead

  84. Compassionate
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    The dead has risen.

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