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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\int\limits \frac{x^4 + 1}{x^2 \sqrt{x^4  1}}dx\]
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UnkleRhaukus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[u=x^41\] \[(u+1)^{1/4}=x\] \[\frac 14(u+1)^{3/4}\text du=\text dx\] \[\int\limits \frac{u+2}{(u+1)^{2/4} \sqrt{u}}\frac 14(u+1)^{3/4}\text du\]
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I have already tried that substitution and stuck
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UnkleRhaukus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
maybe there is a trig substitution
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Mimi_x3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\int\limits\frac{(x^{2})^{2}+1}{x^{2}\sqrt{(x^{2})^{2}1}} \] maybe a trig sub..u^2 = tan\theta or u^2 = sin\theta
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Mimi_x3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i mean x^2 = tan\theta or x^2 = sin\theta
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
this is guessing game...maybe\[x^2=\sec u\]
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Mimi_x3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yeah my bad..but i think x^2 = tan(u) would work as well..
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
here it is\[\int\limits \frac{\sec^2 u + 1}{2 \sqrt{\sec u}} du\]
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I don't know what to do with the sqrt{sec u}
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Mimi_x3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
secx = 1/cosx maybe weirstrass substitution?
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Mimi_x3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
wait..wont work http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+sqrt%28secx%29
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
there must be a tricky substitution
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cruffo Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Have you tried splitting the integral up like this: ?
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
it won't work... http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+%28x^2%29%2F%28sqrt%28x^4+1%29%29+dx
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Mimi_x3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
then what about this \[\int\limits\frac{(secu)^{2}+1}{(secu)^{2}\sqrt{(secu)^{2}1}} *\frac{tanusecu}{2\sqrt{secu}} \]? its not going to look nice tho
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\int\limits \frac{\sec^2 u+1}{2\sqrt{\sec u}} du\]
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Mimi_x3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
hmm..this is hard..would integration by parts work?
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
haven't tried that, but I doubt it will work
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[sec=\sqrt{tan^2+1}\]\[sec^2=tan^2+1\] \[\int\limits \frac{\tan^2 u+2}{2tan^2u+2} du\] or am i missing something?
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
my last hope is x=e^t
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Mimi_x3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
x=e^t? i might sound stupid; but where did e^t come from?
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i missed something :)\[x^{1/4}\ne x\]
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
well maybe that will lead us to some sinh and cosh
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
yeah x=e^t works
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
x=e^t dx=e^t dt\[\int \frac{e^{4t} + 1}{e^{2t} \sqrt{e^{4t}  1}}e^t\text{d}t=\int \frac{e^{2t} + e^{2t}}{ \sqrt{e^{2t}  e^{2t}}}\text{d}t=\int \frac{2\cosh t}{\sqrt{\sinh t}} \text{d}t\]
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
OOoopS typo again\[\int \frac{2\cosh 2t}{\sqrt{2\sinh 2t}} \text{d}t\]
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
nice, it works!
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
now I can rest peacefully lol
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exraven Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ty all for helping :)
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