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how to determine the elements that are expanded octet and incomplete octet?

Chemistry
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do you mean in general or from a lewis diagram or...
for the lewis diagam
ok, well first you know what the octet rule is right?

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yea..I understand that one
elements of period 3 and above can expand their valence shells to include extra lone pairs or bonded pairs
but incomplete octet - in your course or book, do they mean the other exceptions to the octet rule (there aren't enough valence elctrons or there are odd numbers)?
in any case, you can always count the number of valence electrons and bond pairs and see if anything is different than it should be
too little = incomplete (many things with Al, Be, B) and "free radicals" to many = expanded (ICl4, phosphorus (PCl5)
i have to go, maybe this would help http://chemed.chem.wisc.edu/chempaths/GenChem-Textbook/Exceptions-to-the-Octet-Rule-573.html good luck
oh...thank you!

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