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Everything is common amongst OpenStudy and the websites I am comparing with it! 1) Age: This is not a problem... all the sites have 13 as a minima. 2) Topic: All the sites have the same topics — Mathematics, Computer Science, Sciences, etcetera. 3) Question choice: All sites allow any kind of questions that are well written, and specific. 4) Social aspects: All the above websites are social with chats. 5) Security: Again, all the websites mentioned have well-maintained security with moderators and staff. Where, then, has OpenStudy failed to conquer?
because open study is more of a like tutoring site then all the others. This is more of a site where you can come get help in your home work and stuff like that.
open to every one
Most of the users want direct answer that they get there in other sites but this site is for helping not answering..
@Allythegymnast: Just to let you know, I learn better at Stack Exchange than I do on OpenStudy. The people have better explanation techniques. @ksaimouli: So is Stack Exchange. @mathslover: I still don't understand your philosophy behind that. Stack Exchange does not have such a policy, yet an asker is made to understand by the wide range of examples. http://math.stackexchange.com log on for some inspiration.
M.SE also allows for homework answering and people there almost never give you a direct answer, but a hint. Most are even willing to walk you through the process. It's like you guys have never been there. :P
Mhm, yep. They're good at catching homework questions and always ask the following questions: 1) Please put the homework tag if this is homework. 2) What was the inspiration behind the question? 3) OK, so do you know how X works?
Although the two websites are basically the same, M.SE portrays an atmosphere of seriousness. I love OS because I've been here for a long time, but the atmosphere in here and the leniency of the moderators turns the site into a prepubescent party.
How did M.SE become such an environment? That's my question... and so is, why did OpenStudy not become such?
Believe it or not, my friend, but the theme of the website plays a gigantic role when it comes to this. What's the first thing you see when you type OpenStudy.com? On the other hand, M.SE likes to keep its template simple so as to save busy people's time searching or posting things.
Math.StackExchange is a systematic site which is based on the users, where they have the ability to bring down a question / user. I'm surprised why the following features don't exist: * A SmartScore of 50 (at least) for chatting. * The ability to upvote/downvote questions.
* Reviewing questions.
The user-based template will never work in OS because the mental maturity of most of our users is not up to par, and they'll end up abusing it. Also, that would require the administrators to let go of some of their power, which is always a daunting thing. ;P
Yes, all sites have their own set of values and philosophy, but this one just doesn't work.
All of this is akin to nations: some of them have democracies, others have socialism and they all think their system is the best. ;P
But in bringing together world as a study group-a place where teachers and students communicate openly ,engage in study,work as a team,build good friendships between fellow students, openstudy stands ahead of all others !! cheers to os!!
That's very true.
@AravindG Eh, I was explained a question better on M.SE than OpenStudy.
@ParthKohli its better we stop comparing different sites,each education site has its own plus points and demerits, a better idea would be use them together or alternatively to get maximum inputs,anyhow i would like to tell you that in OS i have witnessed thorough explanations and discussions which are the best i have seen in my life till date in internet
Good point, but being critical, there are a lot of things better than OpenStudy.
:) dont want to proceed this further .Anyway enjoy your learning bro !
When I'm starving, a pizza is better than OS. When I'm in middle school and I have a take-home final exam due tomorrow, OS is my savior.
We've already had detailed and extensive discussions on why we don't have downvotes. Most members of the OpenStudy team read the StackExchange theory of moderation the day it was posted. You'll find on math.SE that the difficulty/complexity level of questions is higher. That's cool, mind you. But that makes the audience significantly different. I see it this way: Math.SE currently helps the average person get through college. I don't see it ever helping the average person get through middle or high school. OpenStudy currently helps you through the latter two more, but I easily see it helping you through college. I think that's down to values and perspective. If you love learning, having a site that is designed for people who are serious about learning is awesome. We built OpenStudy for the masses, though. We want to attract the people who *don't* love learning, and show them that learning doesn't necessarily have to be boring, and it doesn't have to be against a wall. *That's* why the site is a little more playful. That's why chat is an important feature, even if it doesn't help in learning itself. Math.SE is, in a lot of ways, is a site built solely for certain users. These users answer questions with incredible poise and intelligence, and ask interesting questions with a willingness to engage in the answers, usually after they've exhausted their own mental faculties on the matter. That's a great niche, which we don't serve *as well* (though I do think we still serve it). But our reach is broader, to the people who initially maybe don't ask very good questions. People who are in a different place, mentally, who aren't quite at the point where they want to make the effort, but are maybe close enough that we can push them into it surreptitiously. SE and MathOverflow are similar in concept (down to using similar/the same software). Quora's point is different entirely, so I won't even address the comparisons there. We pay close attention to what all those sites are doing, and think about how their approaches apply to OpenStudy. But I think the best way to describe it is this: SE, MathOverflow, Quora, these are all sites made exclusively for adults. Even the younger folks who post in these are expected to act and communicate as adults. That's fine, and it's their decision, but I don't think it's fair to those who are still maturing. The immaturity around here can get as annoying to us as to anyone, but we have to remember that we're not just here to help adults, or people who can fake being adults close enough that adults don't get annoyed; we're here to help everyone we're legally allowed to help (aka >13 years old) if they are willing to be helped. I think our mission is more difficult, but I think it is also more pure and, in the end, a mission that is in greater need of being fulfilled. One that has the potential to fundamentally change the world. That's why I'm here, it's why we're all here, and it's the filter that we see every decision we make through: yes, we have mature users, and we love them, and they rock, and they make this site go 'round. But they are not the only ones, and they cannot be, or it's all for naught, because too many are left out. Hope that answers your question with enough depth :)
Shadow, I respect your opinion. But, ALL sorts of questions are acceptable on Stack Exchange  if and only if the asker adds what (s)he has to say and that is what recognizes dedicated learners on their site. Specific questions are what every Q/A community targets. We, on the other hand, are not so serious. People these days are here only to chat. Yes, some people on Stack Exchange also have the same intentions, but they never are so immature.  http://meta.math.stackexchange.com/questions/410/what-is-our-policy-on-questions-that-are-quite-clearly-homework
I agree with shadow. A typical High school student would not find MSE helpful. It isn't inviting especially with all the downvoting. I was attacked when I asked my first question on MSE. They didn't like the wording of my question, I had used slang words which is unacceptable, and I hadn't shown enough work. Every site has its pros and cons and caters to a different crowd. I personally like the atmosphere on OS. Its a happy and accepting environment.
I might be too attached to M.SE at the moment, but it's good if somebody learns how to frame their own questions, no?
There is nothing wrong in learning how to frame a question. I like MSE too. I tend to ask most of my questions there but I wouldnt want OS to be MSE. Those who appreciate MSE's style and format should head there. OS needs to be unique in order to take off the ground and it has a long way to go.
It's fine if someone learns how to frame their own questions. I don't see a reason to prohibit slang in question asking when you're talking about a student asking it. I didn't realize there were such rules on Math.SE, but it follows with what I said. Their target audience is adults or people who speak like adults. They have no room for people who are younger and act the part. That's fine for them to decide, but it's not the course we're taking. I didn't talk about what questions Math.SE will accept, I talked about the kinds of questions that actually show up tagged homework, which is a direct result of their policies, community, and culture. We differ on that, and I think that's healthy for both sites. Moreover, the meat of my argument had little to do with the question types, and everything to do with target audience and atmosphere.
Put differently: there's nothing wrong with being a bit immature when you're 13 or 14 or 15 or 16; you simply need to be guided towards maturity. And we want our community to reflect that.