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MathSofiya
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\[\int cosxsec^2xdx\]
I forgot how to do this integral manually
this is what wolf had to say
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral+of+cosxsec^2x
how how do I do it manually?
 one year ago
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MathSofiya Group Title
\[\int cosxsec^2xdx\] I forgot how to do this integral manually this is what wolf had to say http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral+of+cosxsec^2x how how do I do it manually?
 one year ago
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Valpey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Asking cos*sec^2, not cos/sec^2
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bahrom7893 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh, sorry: Cosx/Cos^2x = 1/Cosx = Secx
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bahrom7893 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Well actually you'd keep it as 1/Cox, and use integration by parts
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
wait a second \[\int cosx\frac 1{cos^2x}dx?\]
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bahrom7893 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Sorry for the confusion.. Let's start over: Cosx*Sec^2x = Cosx/Cos^2x = 1/Cosx, since Secx = 1/Cosx
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\int\frac 1{cosx}dx\]
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Valpey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\int{\cos{x}*\frac{1}{1\sin^2{x}}}\ dx\]
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bahrom7893 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Well that I just had memorized, but actually i bet you don't simplify it down to 1/Cos, I was probably wrong again, you keep it as Cos/Cos^2 and then do what Valpey told you to
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
why did you change it? wouldn't it make more sense to cancel one cosine out?
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Valpey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Let u = sin(x) du = cos(x)dx \[\int{\frac{du}{1u^2}}\]
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bahrom7893 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Actually this would be the easiest option, imo: Cos^2(u) = (1/2)+(Cos(2u))/2
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bahrom7893 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok let Valpey, finish this, otherwise you'll get confused.
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
do I multiply the integral by \[\ frac {1+u^2}{1+u^2}\]
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\frac {1+u^2}{1+u^2}\]
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experimentX Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[ \int \sec x dx = \log \left  \sec x + \tan x\right  = \log \left \tan \left( {x \over 2} + {\pi \over 4}\right)\right  \] wikipedia says it's quite a problem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_of_the_secant_function
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
makes sense, thank you!
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Valpey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Oh, duh! My bad.\[\int\frac{1}{1u^2}du=\int\frac{1}{(1u)(1+u)}du=\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{1+1}{(1u)(1+u)}du\]\[=\frac{1}{2}\int\Big(\frac{1+u}{(1u)(1+u)}+\frac{1u}{(1u)(1+u)}\Big)du\]\[=\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{1+u}{(1u)(1+u)}du+\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{1u}{(1u)(1+u)}du=\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{1}{1u}du+\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{1}{1+u}du\] \[=\frac{1}{2}(\log(1u))+\frac{1}{2}(\log(1+u))\] \[\frac{1}{2}\Big(\log(1+\sin x)\log(1+\sin x)\Big)\]
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Valpey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
*\[\frac{1}{2}\Big(\log(1+\sin x)\log(1\sin x)\Big)\]
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Valpey Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Oh yeah, I need absolute values. \[\frac{1}{2}\Big(\log1+\sin x−\log1−\sin x\Big)\]Which is also\[\frac{1}{2}\log\frac{1+\sin x}{1−\sin x}\], but now I'm just cheating off Wikipedia.
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TuringTest Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
@MathSofiya still want help with\[\int\cos x\sec^2xdx\]?
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TuringTest Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
it seems that everyone here has forgotten the simple trick to this integral...
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
see there had to be a simpler way
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TuringTest Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\cos x\sec^2x=\cos x\cdot\frac1{\cos^2 x}=\frac1{\cos x}=\sec x\]so\[\int\cos x\sec^2 xdx=\int\sec xdx\]now the great trick for this integral: multiply by\[{\sec x+\tan x\over\sec x+\tan x}\]and watch what happens (yes I know the idea is not obvious, but once you see it try to remember it)
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TuringTest Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\int\sec x\left({\sec x+\tan x\over\sec x+\tan x}\right)dx=\int{\sec^2x+\sec x\tan x\over\sec x+\tan x}dx\]magically the top is now the derivative of the bottom:\[u=\sec x+\tan x\implies du=\sec^2x+\sec x\tan xdx\]\[\int\frac1udu=\lnu+C=\ln\sec x+\tan x+C\]
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TuringTest Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
that is the standard approach for this wellknown integral
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
oh I see. So is it just a matter of doing many integrals and then coming to this conclusion? I wouldn't have thought of that, and yet again I haven't reviewed my integrals much.
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
but yes it makes sense now I see it.
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TuringTest Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I don't think I would have thought of this had I not known this integral either, I'm sure whoever discovered this trick spent quite some time on it. Fortunately, most integral tricks are far more obvious, this is just one of the more esoteric, yet directly effective tricks. There are few integrals that require such a nonobvious algebraic manipulation, most are easier too see. That is why I say, memorize this one, it is a classic and will serve you in the future :)
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MathSofiya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I shall memorize this integral =P (honestly I will) And as always, Thanks Turing!
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