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Dallasb22
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Find the area of an equilateral triangle (regular 3gon) with the given measurement.
3inch radius
A = sq. in.
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Dallasb22 Group Title
Find the area of an equilateral triangle (regular 3gon) with the given measurement. 3inch radius A = sq. in.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Area= 1/2ap
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I draw an auxiliary triangle off of the radius, the radius being the hypotenuse
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
By 3 inch radius, do you mean that it is inscribed in a circle of radius 3 inches?
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
dw:1348254489061:dw
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
The apothem is half of the radius
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
dw:1348254528658:dw So it looks like both are drawings are similar?
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
So its 1.5
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I multiply 1.5 times √3 to get the long side
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Than i multiply that answer "3√3" by 2 to get the side of the big triangle
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I multiply that by 3 to get the perimeter. So i have the perimeter and the apothem.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Yes, and to make matters easier, the angle and segment bisectors will meet 2/3 of the way to the other side, making the height = 1.5 x apothem.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
The answer i got the first time is: 6 3/4√3 but they told me its wrong.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
height = 1.5 x apothem = 1.5 x (r/2) = 3r/4.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I don't need the height to find the area though.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
All i need is the apothem and the perimeter
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You're right, you don't, but you can take advantage of some easy trigonometry to get the answer easier.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Ok, well i'm only in Geometry.. So i'm not suppose to be doing trig
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
*Well i don't know any
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Ok, then I'll stop with that approach.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Lol, if it's fairly easy, I don't mind learning it
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
It must be easier than the book's method because everyone I talk to on here starts using trig
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
No, that's ok. I can do it the other way. That's the way you're supposed to be doing it and it will blow others away.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I'll explain the methodology and you can do the work. It won't be that hard, really.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I got most of my questions right, but this one i got wrong and i'm not sure why.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
We'll use apothem and perimeter and derive some cool measurements from them.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
We can use one thing I said above, that height = 3r/4 because that does come from the apothem to radius relationship and the fact that angle and side bisectors meet in the middle and make that height 3r/4. Stop and draw yourself that on paper to convince yourself. Because that's going to be key. And grooviness is good here!
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
r= radius?
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
9/4 is the height?
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Now, here's the trick, and it's really cool conceptually, but a little hard to explain. maybe I can draw a picture.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
dw:1348255695035:dw
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psi9epsilon Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
For an equilateral triangle circumcentre, incentre , centroid are all at the same point use this property to solve the problem
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I forgot to put a letter at the top, call it c and call the, here, I'll draw again
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psi9epsilon Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@tcarroll010 , has given you the correct diagram, just name the angles and measures of sides
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
dw:1348255924927:dw There.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
We know ac = 9/4. We know oa is 3/4. We know ob is 3/4, so we can get ab and you can do 1/2 of h x b for oab. Then double for the whole triangle.
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psi9epsilon Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dw:1348255963318:dw
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Sorry, I did ob wrong, but you can do it. It's 2/3 of oa.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ob is 2/3 of ac.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Ob is 2/3 of 3/4?
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Sorry, I'm trying to do 3 things at once, but it's right there in the diagram and just use pythagorean on the lengths.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I don't follow.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
2/3 of 9/4 so its 3/2
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ob is 3/2 oa is 3/4, so you can get ab.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ab will be your base. ac your height. Then you can easily get area of triangle.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Ab being 1.5√3
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ac is 9/2 or (4 and 1/2)
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
oa is apothem which is 1/2 of r, so add 3 (which is oc) to 1 and 1/2 which is oa. so ac is 9/2
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ob = oc = 3. So, you have a right triangle where you can figure out ab. ab^2 + oa^2 = ob^2
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Once you get ab, it's a piece of cake.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Are you all set now?
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I gotta go. I hope you are all set.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
No.. Lol, ab^2 + 3/4^2 =3^2?
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I just got back to my computer after a half hour. You don't happen to still be there are you?
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Sadly, i am.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
My condolences. I'm thinking that you're not liking this problem anymore. I'm going to try to simplify it all in one post and you can just work from info in that and the diagram.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
oa is apothem and = r/2. oc=ob=r. ac=oc+oa. oa^2 + ab^2 = ob^2. Triangle area = ab x ac. That's all there is to it. My guess is that you're having trouble working with oa^2 + ab^2 = ob^2. So, for that ab: ab = sqrt(ob^2  oa^2).
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
oa= 3/2 right?
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Are you having trouble with the square root and getting ab? Is that the hangup?
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I don't think so, let me work out your equation above ^^
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
OK, so i got: √6.75 So √6.75 times 4.5 = area? √6.75 = ab 4.5 = ac
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yes, you're getting it, you really are. It might be a little better to think of that ab length, which is sqrt(6.75), as(3 x sqrt(3)) / 2. But either way works. Whatever is easier for you.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Because when you're done, and you really almost are, enough that I can give you the answer, the area is (27 x sqrt(3)) / 4.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You should be able to get to that last number with what should be your upcoming and last step.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
So... 27√3  4 ???
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[27√3\div4\]
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yes, but more importantly, do you see the flow of the steps? That's the important thing.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I can't carry that out?
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You can put it in decimal from or any other representation if you want. Sqrt(3) is irrational, so any decimal representation will truncate digits, but that's ok.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Decimalwise, it can be truncated to 11.69134.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Oh wait sorry, 27√3/4 is the area!! Okay
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yes, and area is ac x ab.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I put the answer as: 27/4√3
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I'll let you know if they accept it in 5 minutes.
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Not 27/4√3. It's \[27\sqrt{3}/4\]
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tcarroll010 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
The order of those multiplicands is important.
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Dallasb22 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Correct Score: 100 Thank you!!
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