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Is this something having to do with you proving god is real?
Or proving god is not real?
Both, I just want to know if what I said makes sense.
the problem is that we humans are wired so that there is a beginning and an end, this is not the case of the universe. It is so vast that we could not begin to conceive what it holds. The question whether there was an "intelligent designer" is obsolete because we will never know. We wish to centre ourselves in the middle of it all, but that is just because humans are selfish and greedy. We are nothing in comparison to the universe, and we will not influence anything beyond this planet.
Why are we so selfish and greedy? Can a dog or a insect feel those emotions? Why are we so more intelligent than those animals?
We are selfish and greedy because we have needs, physiological and social. Our intelligence is due to the circuitry in the large brain mass we have (in comparison to a dog/insect). Animals and insects do, too, feel emotions but aren't able to express them as we can. Have you ever watched dogs play? or eat? they fight for food, toys, etc. specially if they don't know each other, they would probably kill each other. Our animalistic thinking of survival drives our necessity, once we have substantial niche. greed takes over (if you think this is not true, look at CEO's, corporations, GAS COMPANIES). I'm not saying everyone is like this, but this is a sad reality about human kind, if you don't believe me go work in a factory, bust your retricefor minimum wage, while the owner dines lavishly and goes on expensive trips.
If a building exits, a builder built it If a painting is made, a painter painted it If the universe was made, it is the manifestation of time it self (please note: time is not a being)
The creator made the Universe^
what space does your creator exist in? how did this space come into existence?
Actually, we already know that there is a Creator. And that's God. As in Jesus Christ. And i know this for a fact. How? Because i have proof. And i can answer all of your questions. (sorry i know this conversation was a few months ago but i saw it and i just wanted to help :P )
what proof do you have?
well what kind of proof are you looking for?
you said you had proof, what is it?
right, but what do you want to know? ask me a question cause i cant exactly answer anything unless i have a question to answer
"Actually, we already know that there is a Creator. And that's God. As in Jesus Christ. And i know this for a fact. How? Because i have proof. " you stated that you had proof, and now you want me to ask you questions?
right...so i can answer them
lol okay, clearly, you don't know what you're talking about.
hahaha no, ill give you proof if you ask me a question that you want to know. i cant exactly spit out everything i know...my brain doesnt work like that :P haha sorry
here's my question, then, what proof do you have that "god" exists?
okay, well out of all the archaeological cites in the world, not one has proven the Bible wrong, or that God doesnt exists. Some have even enforced the Bible.
how would archeological sites proving god doesn't exist? can you provide citations for this: "Some have even enforced the Bible." is the existence of hunger, injustice, disease, murder, etc. not enough to prove a god doesn't exist?
We dont learn from stuff unless bad things happen. A perfect world would be pointless. God allows for bad things to happen so we can see that we would be lost without him.
that's a rather large assumption. if god "allows" bad things to happen to us, why believe in him then? lol what is so good about god?
its not an assumption. whats not good about God?
"A perfect world would be pointless", that is a huge assumption. and the fact that he "allows" innocent people to suffer for no reason makes him, essentially, a bully.
A builder made the building. A painter made the painting. The universe was not made.
By the same logic; if god exists what created god? What created the creator of god? What created the creator of the creator of god? ... .. . Implies an infinite number creators Reductio ad absurdum.
Uncle rhaukas did have some flawless logic.