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plz help? which came first egg or hen? tell the ans in probablity

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the hen of course or the egg wouldnt be their :)
or the egg or the hen wouldnt be their
well hen duh

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i came first
egg probability zero
its sirious question for bio students genetics and evolution
it goes GOD, HENS EGGS BOOMMMMMMMMMM
no god me the hen egg booom boom
no one can tell ?????????????
i can
it goes lyk probabilityn is 1/2 ....if it is a serious ques
wow your good
how will the egg come unless both hen and wingspan are there ! ;) so i vote for egg first..and atleast 2 of em,,with different genders,ofcorse.! :P
Where from the genetic material in egg?
If u see in the dictionary egg come first....so...
dude solve ?? i am having the ans wiil be disclosed in 7 min till then discuss???????????
well in the beginning when god created the earth he created animals not eggs first so it was the hen
There is always some religious zealots around.....sigh
their also some athiests around sigh sigh
nobdy came first........it wasn't like god sent hen or egg directly.archaic animals evolved to hen.
I agree, hen first, I read this article once which said British scientists had discovered that it was the hen first as without it then eggs cannot be made by its marvelous inner egg factory production, lol, no seriously it is marvellous
Yes, egg is a reproductive mechanism, not the only one, it evolved (not created)
it was hen
hen=egg
i agree i guess
why are we answering this weird question
?
It's a probability question :-)
@estudier ,yes but it needs a designer to fashion the egg, in other words to give it an image, it cant just pop like a pop corn
i like hens
well.......its a vry old qsn and pepl need to watch discovry to understand evolution.........hens came very late around when humans came.
DNA mutations = no need for designer, is random chance better for survival...
@estudier but that is in conflict with what humans believe, a house has a designer, a robot has a designer a clock has a designer then what about an egg??????
I am a human and I don't believe it so your theory is false
well your in conflict with yourself, be it then
well by genetic mutatin probablity can give three ans ist case -due to genetic mutation some xyz species may have developed calcarious shell around there embryo then after second mutation hen came into existance 2nd case - may be hen came first due to mutation in xyz and then after second mutation calcarious shell developed 3rd case - may be both hen and with capablity of giving young one with calcarious shell came up theory by ------------ 009 infinity
by first hen came first by 2nd egg came first by third both came at same time so every person is 1/3 times right. by probablity SOLVED :)
lol
The hen..
ok im back again it was the hen in the beginning god created animals not eggs first
i wasn't right at all!
who agrees
believers
Birds evolved from lizards, so the egg
im a believer
hahaha classic birds from lizzards, I need to open a new question
and this is not math, I don't care what you write about probability in the post
nope lizards evolved from birds look it up
I TOLD EARLIER EVRY ONE IS RIGHT 1/3 TIMES NOW THIS IS ULTIMATE TRUTH
im that 1/3 thats right
all living creatures should have evolved wings if it were left to evolution as its the most efficient method of transport
i dn't agree with any of those options...........so i am rong
but what about turtles, snails etc, they defy evolution
cows shouldnt have wings if they flew and pooped on you that would be gross
Egg. Probability=1.
GIVE RESON SUPPORTING UR CHOICE @avijit007
@Bgarza95 well evolution should have found a solution to cows having such large poop
like what pooper scoopers
DONT MAKE BLIND GUESSES.............. :)
how about a porta potty
or a floating big john for animals
well eveolution it seems as claimed by evolutionists is this marvelous process that magically knows what you want to be in the future
hmmm let me see, I would like to be an elephant
I'm with @heedcom
oh wait an elephnat that flies
@heedcom if you don't understand how evolution works, you shouldn't be making comments about it.
I'm gonna close this now y'all who want to debate evolution please do it in the bio forum thanks
evolution is an opinion....
=D
Evolution is a fact @MathSofiya (i.e. it happens and it's observable).
disagreed
I respect your opinion though
i dont know any more
Your lack of agreement doesn't change the fact. I don't have an opinion on the matter. I accept the facts.
@CliffSedge I have read darwins book on the origin of species but he questions his own ideas som much as to think he is crazy, I think I know more than you about evolution, but I dont agree with it
think carefully ,if the eggs would have come first,how could they be hatched ? so, the probability of coming of eggs first is zero. SO it's simple, a hen & a wingspan came first.
You need to read more than Darwin (and also go back and read Darwin more carefully...)
wait this isnt a math question why are we aswering it
I brought my attorney along. @CliffSedge meet @heedcom
i have no choice b'coz m compltly speechless........the soln is completly looking like sn1 crazy with half knowledge has typed it.....so i just want to find smthing else..............rightness can't b in fractions...........bt th guy who has asked this qsn is completely crazzzzzzyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!
heedcom my attorney thief
I have also read richard dawkins @CliffSedge
If you don't agree with evolution, then that means you don't understand it (or likely have a philosophical reason for refusing to accept the facts).
I have actually studied the existence og GOD and evolution but GOD makes more sense, far more
Example 1. "well eveolution it seems as claimed by evolutionists is this marvelous process that magically knows what you want to be in the future" This is false and a strawman fallacy.
hen first of course it rhymes so im right
Wouldn't ' GOD is this marvelous process that magically knows what you want to be in the future.' be more in line with the definition and properties of such an entity?
@CliffSedge you defy your own self, if you were to create a robot then wouldnt you want to be known as the creator, but it seems your ignoring your creator
@CliffSedge Will men continue to evolve?
god created animals not eggs so hen first right heed com
Example 2: "well evolution should have found a solution to cows having such large poop" False. There is no selection pressure from the size of cow poop for evolution to act on.
and also darwin was wrong we didnt evolve from monkeys he was a monkey
@CliffSedge evolutionists use very big words to make there statements more valid over creationist
" you defy your own self, if you were to create a robot then wouldnt you want to be known as the creator, but it seems your ignoring your creator" Non sequitor, begging the question, and irrelevant.
@CliffSedge Will men continue to evolve?
wheres the missing link? the world may never no
@Bgarza95 re: ".. [Darwin was wrong we didnt evolve from monkeys he was a monkey" Darwin never said humans evolved from monkeys; he said humans and monkeys share a common ancestor, but regardless, it is true that humans are monkeys (by a cladistic technicality)
@CliffSedge will humans continue to evolve?
so are you saying im related to coco the monkey or king kong why didnt they turn to humans than
@CliffSedge is trying to say that humans are incomplete to this day, but this is a lie, we are 100% complete, exactly where is the missing links even darwin in his origin of species highlights this grave question as he puts it. humans are humans and monkeys are monkeys
yes heed com
@MathSofiya unlikely, in the short term anyway, because there aren't enough selection pressures.
we have been on this question for 30 minutes no thats awesome
so when a child is born with a 3rd leg due to genetic mutation....is that evolution in process?
" is trying to say that humans are incomplete to this day, but this is a lie, we are 100% complete, exactly where is the missing links even darwin in his origin of species highlights this grave question as he puts it. humans are humans and monkeys are monkeys" False. Strawman argument (fallacious). Argument from ignorance (fallacious). There are hundreds of intermediate forms found between modern humans and our ape ancestors.
@MathSofiya I think they would claim it is, lol
"There are hundreds of intermediate forms found between modern humans and our ape ancestors." never, not even a single one
ok back to eggs hen came first how did we end up with darwin?
@MathSofiya re: "so when a child is born with a 3rd leg due to genetic mutation....is that evolution in process?" No, that is a single mutation. Evolution does not operate on individuals, only on populations. If that third leg increased survival and reproductive success over others in the population, then those without the third leg would not reproduce as much and selection pressure will choose the three-legged humans. (this is an unlikely scenario, though)
"never, not even a single one" This is a lie. (Lying is also a logical fallacy)
unlikely ofcourse, as it will never happen
im confused now
ok who hear is religous and who is notnthat is the real question that will solve all of are problems
@Bgarza95 "so are you saying im related to coco the monkey or king kong why didnt they turn to humans than" Yes, you are related to [K]oko, the [gorilla]. King Kong is fictitious. An individual doesn't 'turn into' some other morphology during its lifetime. That would be absurd. The ignorance displayed here is appalling. (That's just an opinion).
no its not true king kong is real i saw him on tv CliffSedge
why do we change our poison to wingspanraoches every generation, we make it stronger, thats because the cocroaches are programmed not to change and therfore fight back against the pesticides therfore becoming immune to them, similiar with mice
wingspanroaches are evil they die of a shoe and live with nuclear bombs their of the devil
i mean wingspanroaches
wingspanroaches sorry meant wingspanraches
wingspanroach
i mean c o c k r o a c h
i try to type c o c k r o a c h it comes out wingspanroach
oh man I think its this server, it thinks I am typing a rude word, but I mean cocroackes
thats weird
@Bgarza95 yeah thanks, i didnt know
yay
numbers win, it was 3 on cliffsedge, lol well he should know that there are more believers than evolutionists
That is somewhat of a scary thought.... If evolution is guided by survival and reproduction, then why do we have human rights to assist the weak and needy? Wouldn't we leave them alone and allow evolution to do its job?
im one of those believers whos with me and whos against me
Example 3: "evolutionists use very big words to make there statements more valid over creationist" That is your opinion based on your limited vocabulary. Statements are made valid by their logical structure and made true by their accordance with facts. The size of the words has no bearing on either.
now back to my question @CliffSedge
@MathSofiya tells this to people who have a logical human thought, meaning, me you and @Bgarza95
SORRY DUDE THERE WAS TYPING MISTAKE IN THIRD CASE IT SAYS- MAY TWO GENETIC MUTATION WOULD HAVE TOOK PLACE AT SAME TIME (SUBSIQUENTLY) TIME IN XYZ SPECIES SO EGG AND HEN BOTH COME AT SAME TIME.
what that makes no sense
@CliffSedge Our belief in a creator is really simple to understand even for a child as it was designed as such, but imagine explaining evolution
yes heed com your right
I'm not taking sides. I just want to hear what evolutionists' opinions are. So @CliffSedge That is somewhat of a scary thought.... If evolution is guided by survival and reproduction, then why do we have human rights to assist the weak and needy? Wouldn't we leave them alone and allow evolution to do its job?
im taking sides im on heed com side the side of God
ok egg first ok
THANKS TO EVERY ONE WHO TOOK PART IN DISCUSSION I THINK I SHOULD CLOSE IT NOW WHAT U ALL THINK ABOUT CONCLUSION OF DISCUSSION PLZ WRITE ON POST......
dont do it ill open it up again hehehehe
SHALL I CLOSE IT?????????
@MathSofiya ,the creator has also given that trait to animals as well, how can a lion take care of its child, please see how a crocodile nurses its children, its sends shivers down your spine, a powerful machine yet so gentle when it comes to nursing.
@heedcom "Our belief in a creator is really simple to understand even for a child as it was designed as such, but imagine explaining evolution" Your beliefs have no affect on facts. What a child understands has no affect on facts.
why did you ask this question any way
come on at @CliffSedge .... If evolution is guided by survival and reproduction, then why do we have human rights to assist the weak and needy? Wouldn't we leave them alone and allow evolution to do its job
@MathSofiya ITS NOT EVOLUTION BUT NATURAL SELECTION
@CliffSedge well it makes a differnce to those millions of children dying, if they believe then heaven is promised for them but if they dont they end up where you will end up (in pitch black nothing forever)
I asked 3 times that's why I got a little frustrated @CliffSedge =D and @009infinity ...no need for caps. No need to yell
@MathSofiya "That is somewhat of a scary thought.... If evolution is guided by survival and reproduction, then why do we have human rights to assist the weak and needy? Wouldn't we leave them alone and allow evolution to do its job? " Human beings are free to run their societies however they please. Human beings have evolved to have compassion and philantropy and reciprocity (many other species do the same. It is a survival benefit to our species to care for each other.
@009infinity natural selection is a very plausibel sense in terms of creation as it defeats the sick and weak to make a more healtheir generation for the future
(I apologize for the delays in commenting here; I'm helping others with math questions.)
im rally confused cant be talk about eggs
i think im leaving this conversation its to confusing
@heedcom "well it makes a differnce to those millions of children dying, if they believe then heaven is promised for them but if they dont they end up where you will end up (in pitch black nothing forever)" That has no evidence to support it, and has no connection to the topic of discussion.
@CliffSedge What about accountability? What do you believe happens when you die?
their is a heaven and those who dont go go down below
@CliffSedge "Human beings have evolved to have compassion and philantropy and reciprocity " exactly religion is what evolved this compassion into us to this day, I would like to ask a question, where do evolutionists get there morals from, they have just stolen them of religious people.
I WANT TO ASK DO U ALL SEE ANY CASE WRONG IN MY THEORY
@009infinity "ITS NOT EVOLUTION BUT NATURAL SELECTION" Natural selection is the non-random process by which evolution operates on random changes.
drop the caps dude! @009infinity It's rude!
so is oo9infinity a evolutionist or is cliffsedge
@MathSofiya "What about accountability? What do you believe happens when you die?" What accountability? When I die, I will no longer be alive. There will be no 'me' left for anything to happen to.
i guess your going down cliffsedge
So then why have rules and regulations? If someone is murdered, why fight for justice...sine their already dead, and technically don't exist anymore
they're*
no they have a soul and with that their soul goes somewhere else animals don't have souls so they black out when they die
I AM TALKING ABOUT MY PREVIOUS THEORY THE THREE CASES ABOUT HEN AND EGG ORIGIN
we have been on this question for an hour now
@CliffSedge my final reply to you, I believe that when I die I will have a creator to take care of me (even if it were false) then living by this false hope is something that suspires me in this life (I dont believe its false), you can also join in this thought as your thought of ending up in nothing is of no help, oh well see you on the day of judgment. that is a promised day as mentioned in the bible, quran and towrah
i like the way you put it heed com
see you @Bgarza95 , @MathSofiya and @009infinity and @CliffSedge , thanks
Who let the cat out of the bag? I need to get back to studying haha....
ok byyyyyy people
@heedcom "exactly religion is what evolved this compassion into us to this day, I would like to ask a question, where do evolutionists get there morals from, they have just stolen them of religious people." You have this backwards. Religions evolve by memes not by biological evolution. Religion systematizes certain evolved characteristics. 'Evolutionists' (by which I suppose you mean those who accept the fact of evolution) get their morals the same as everyone else: from shared culture with other people. Immoral agents are naturally selected against. Morality evolves because immorality does not have survival or reproductive value.
add me as your fan people ttfn tata for now
@CliffSedge Please answer my question when you get a minute.
@Bgarza95 "i guess your going down cliffsedge" I don't understand what you mean by that? Are you threatening me? I think that is against the code of conduct...
OK BYE TO ALL LET QUESTION BE CLOSE ITSELF.... HA HA HA ;)
what i mean is if you dont believe in god you go down the cliff you know where its not a threat or anything. just a choice
i believe you really are at cliffsedge
@MathSofiya "So then why have rules and regulations? If someone is murdered, why fight for justice...sine their already dead, and technically don't exist anymore" Because rules and regulations increase survival and reproductive success for the populations that have them. Species that murder each other without restriction go extinct.
see in your picture your falling see i goes your heading in the wrong direction
@Bgarza95 "no they have a soul and with that their soul goes somewhere else animals don't have souls so they black out when they die" Can you define and locate this 'soul' for me? Where is this 'somewhere else?' can you define and locate that as well?
@CliffSedge can you locate emotions for me?
it is in heaven the spirit realm where when you die you go their or go down when you meet the devil and spend eternity
GOOD NIGHT FRIENDS ENJOY EATING CHICKEN AND EGG ROLL IN UR SWEET DREAM.;)
ok infinty
@heedcom "..., I believe that when I die I will have a creator to take care of me (even if it were false) then living by this false hope is something that suspires me in this life (I dont believe its false),..." That's fine. You are free to believe whatever you like. "... you can also join in this thought as your thought of ending up in nothing is of no help,..." No help to what? I have plenty of my own beliefs (that are based on facts and evidence) that help me out just fine. I see know reason to join in that thought because it is absurd and makes no sense. I don't consider it a benefit to anyone to believe false propositionsl " oh well see you on the day of judgment. that is a promised day as mentioned in the bible, quran and towrah" Plot devices from fictional stories don't interest me that much.
so you believe you just black out and thats it. you live in a world of dark. thats a weird theory
@Bgarza95 "what i mean is if you dont believe in god you go down the cliff you know where its not a threat or anything. just a choice" I still don't know what you're talking about. Believing in the existence of fictional characters (especially ones that refute themselves by being logically inconsistent and self-contradictory) doesn't seem to have any effect at all on the reality of my existence.
their not fictional the proof is the bible. thats not made up
can you locate emotions for me? "Human beings have evolved to have compassion and philantropy and reciprocity" "Because rules and regulations increase survival and reproductive success for the populations that have them." So we do believe in things we can't see or locate...and some of our rules and regulations are based on those.
@Bgarza95 "see in your picture your falling see i goes your heading in the wrong direction" How so? Balanced on the edge and yet I'm still at the top. @MathSofiya "can you locate emotions for me?" Emotions occur in the body. The cognitive aspects occur in the brain, and physical sensations (via hormonal chemistry, muscle tension, etc.) occur in the body, but are still ultimately experienced in the brain.
i dont know it looks like your falling i got to go god speed cliffsedge
@Bgarza95 "it is in heaven the spirit realm where when you die you go their or go down when you meet the devil and spend eternity" Why do you think such things are real? Do you have evidence for their existence or do you merely choose to believe because such beliefs make you feel better?
you believe what you want your set in your ways and wont change i see now i got things to do then to chat hear doing nothing but trying to convince you heaven exists
It's been real. I've gotta get back to studying....
I am convinced by that which provides a good explanation for evidence that can be experienced or reasoned about. Claims to gods, or souls, or heavens do not provide good explanations for any evidence encountered. Nice chatting with you all. You are free to believe what you wish, but if you are going to attempt to explain facts to others based on evidence-less beliefs, then you are doing others a disservice by promoting intellectual dishonesty and cognitive laziness. I consider such actions immoral. (but that's just my opinion).
Use a time machine. @009infinity
@Bgarza95 "you believe what you want your set in your ways and wont change i see now i got things to do then to chat hear doing nothing but trying to convince you heaven exists " I believe what makes sense to me given evidence and reason. I am not set in my ways; I am free to change my mind, and my beliefs will change as I learn more, but until then . . . .
@TuringTest ``` and this is not math, I don't care what you write about probability in the post ``` Making a time machine requires Physics, which brings Mathematics into this question. ;)
religion is not against science, it acually promotes science but science in relating everything back to a creator is more fruitfall then relating all theories and maths to nothing
"religion is not against science, it acually promotes science but science in relating everything back to a creator is more fruitfall then relating all theories and maths to nothing" Strawman. Non-sequitor. Religions make claims that are factually false.
@ParthKohli...... AWESOME!
Not to mention: Begging the question.
We start with an egg, and we reach religion.
@ParthKohli you're right . . . IT'S A MIRACLE! Well, I'm converted. :-P
Amen
=P
(Just for the record: I still love all of you, regardless of our disagreements.)
@ParthKohli that's cool, how did you do that?
quoting me with the box thingy
``` quoting me with the box thingy ``` I believe you are missing those code blocks.
rats, still cool!
lol first came the wingspan then he proposed hen after some time the egg came
Ok this was funny til he had to ruin it^
lol pezz!

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