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sauravshakya
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3^(2p) + 3^(3q) + 3^(5r) = 3^(7s)
Find the minimum value of p+q+r+s
where p,q,r,s are all positive integer.
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sauravshakya Group Title
3^(2p) + 3^(3q) + 3^(5r) = 3^(7s) Find the minimum value of p+q+r+s where p,q,r,s are all positive integer.
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mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
9^p+27^q+3^5r=3^7s
 one year ago

mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
got it @sauravshakya
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
What was that?
 one year ago

mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
we just square and cube the value
 one year ago

sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
The question is to find minimum value of p+q+r+s
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mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
then common 3 as a base
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mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
and then add powers
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mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
then you solve it
 one year ago

sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I have never seen that rule.
 one year ago

mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok so go through wolframalpha
 one year ago

sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I dont think that will also help here.
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mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
go through
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
There is nothing.
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Zekarias Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I am seeing it.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
So, what is the answer?
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Zekarias Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Give a min, but at tell u the answer can't be find the above way.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
What I figured out till now is s must be an odd number....
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@experimentX PLZ see this
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experimentX Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
this doesn't look nice ... saying that find the minimum value of p+q+r+s < this should be close to first instances.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Cant we find that......
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experimentX Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
exponential diophantine equations are awful!! you should probably tag mukushla
 one year ago

sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
This question is not of mine........ Someone posted this today and said a 8th grade challenging question.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
But he is not online.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@mukushla
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experimentX Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
you don't do diophantine equations on 8th grade.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Even I dont know that.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
This surely cant be a 8th grade question.
 one year ago

mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@mathslover i think he do this
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mayankdevnani Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
very dhinchach question
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Now, what I am trying to PROVE is 3^(2p) + 3^(3q) + 3^(5r) = 3^(7s) is never true for any value of p,q,r,s
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experimentX Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
anyway this was the output I got from mathematica \[ \left\{\left\{p\to \frac{8}{5}+2 i,q\to \frac{223}{10}+\frac{53 i}{5},r\to \frac{71}{10}\frac{49 i}{10},\\ s\to \frac{180 i \pi +\text{Log}\left[3^{\frac{71}{2}\frac{49 i}{2}}+3^{\frac{16}{5}+4 i}+3^{\frac{669}{10}+\frac{159 i}{5}}\right]}{7 \text{Log}[3]}\right\}\right\} \] I trolled enough ... not time to go strolling!!
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I dont know it even has a solution.
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experimentX Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
*now .. seeya later!!
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok...... BYE thanx for trying.
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experimentX Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
call it hardly a try .. hehehe
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
how about this : i dont know if this'll work : ( 3^(2p) + 3^(3q) + 3^(5r) )/3 >= 3^( (2p + 3q + 5r)/3 ) or 3^(7s1) >= 3^( (2p + 3q + 5r)/3 ) ??
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@ujjwal p,q,r,s are only positive integers..
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@shubhamsrg ( 3^(2p) + 3^(3q) + 3^(5r) )/3 >= 3^( (2p + 3q + 5r)/3 ) HOW???
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
from AM>=GM
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh >= got it.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yeah nice one.
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
and continuing that, we have 21s >= 2p + 3q + 5r + 3 but still no idea if that'll help..
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
And I got: dw:1349955495301:dw
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I guess NOW, we can prove it has no SOLUTION
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
THAT GIVES: dw:1349955687180:dw
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Now, dw:1349955794330:dw
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Now, can I say No solution...... Or I lack something.
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
well you have made an assumption that 5r<3q .. only that makes LHS an integer..otherwise you cant say..
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
am sorry,,you assumed 5r>3q ..
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
but conclusion to my saying is that you made an assumtion..
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh...... no assumtion.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
L.H.S or R.H.S can be both negative
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Just looking for integer....... L.H.S will always be integer R.H.S will always be in decimal.
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
LHS is not necessary an integer.. we only know that p,q,r,s are integers..
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
and agreed that RHS will always be noninteger..
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh ya....... got it @shubhamsrg
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
So,from there we conclude that 5r<3q
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
guess not,,how can you say that ?
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Because if 5r>=3q then R.H.S will always be integer.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I mean L.H.S
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
but there is also 5r<=3q possibility ,, the ques doesnt say that 5r  3q > 0 /// even if that's true..the proof you mention is invalid..
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh wait........ I guess R.H.S can be integer too.
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shubhamsrg Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
also, we may always conclude that 7s > 2p.3q,5r ..but nothing can be said for inequalities in between 2p,3q and 5r..
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Ok further simplification of it gives: dw:1349956922192:dw
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.6
divide both sides by \(3^{2p}\)\[1+3^{3q2p}+3^{5r2p}=3^{7s2p}\]right hand side is a power of 3 so does the left hand side so we must have\[2p=3q=5r\]\[7s2p=1\]
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
GREAT.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Now, we need to find its minimum value.
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.6
what is that fraction?
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
p+q+r+s = (207p+15)/105
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
right?
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.6
ahh yeah :)
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Now, we need to find its minimum integer value.
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh wait...... But that can make other numbers decimal.
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.6
u better start with \[7s2p=1\]ans\[p=\frac{7s1}{2}\]its immidiate that s is odd let s=2m+1\[p=7m+3\]now find the smallest value of m for which p is a multiple of 3 and 5
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mukushla Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.6
if u wanna check the answer i found is 106 for \[m=6\]\[p=45\]\[q=30\]\[r=18\]\[s=13\]
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sauravshakya Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Thanx @mukushla u r really amazing.
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