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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Lol, derivative?
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yes i think so that doesnt cancel out tho . im making a mistake
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\huge \lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{[(x+h)^{3}3](x^{3}3)}{h}\] is this it?
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yupp ! how do you make it big like that btw ?
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
uhh, before typing in your equations and stuff, put in \huge
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
thanks:D
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
This looks like you're taking the derivative of \[\huge x^{3}  3\]
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yup that's right !
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
And you're to get the derivative using limits? lol, that's harsh... :D
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yess i have to
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You'll realise soon that there are faster ways of getting the derivative... anyway, just evaluate the numerator and show me what you get...
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Algebraic! Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
x^3 's cancel 3's cancel... what's left?
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Algebraic! Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
3x^2h + 3xh^2 +h^3 all divided by h factor out an 'h' in the numerator cancel with the 'h' in the denom. now you can take the limit without issues.
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\huge \ \frac{ x^3+3x^2h+3xh^23x^2+3 }{h }\]
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i have an x^3 and x^2 ? :S
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Well that changes everything...
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Algebraic! Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\frac{ f(x+h)  f(x) }{h }\]
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Algebraic! Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
what's f(x)?
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Algebraic! Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\frac{(x+h)^3 3  ( x^3 3) }{h }\]
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
no f(x)=x^23
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
thats why it doesnt cancel out
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Algebraic! Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
you expanded correctly: \[\frac{ x^3 +3x^2h +3xh^2 +h^3 3  (x^3 3) }{h }\]
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Algebraic! Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
then why are you cubing (x+h) ?
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ohhh i should square it *facepalm*
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Algebraic! Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\frac{ (x+h)^2 3 (x^23) }{h }\]
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
can you help me with this one: find the equation of the tangent \[y=\frac{ x2 }{ x+2 }\] when x=0
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\huge \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{ (x+h)2 }{ (x+h)+2 } \frac{ x2 }{ x+2 }\]
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@terenzreignz
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Equation of the tangent involves derivatives, right?
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Quotient rule? Ever dabbled with it?
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
no we're not allowed to use that yet .
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Here, I don't think I have the attention span to type this out o.O http://www.math.hmc.edu/calculus/tutorials/quotient_rule/proof.pdf
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You're allowed to use anything as long as you can prove it ;)
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
my tests always state "Only using method thought in class" i know that quotient rule is so much faster
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
and we we're never thought that in class yet
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Well, don't despair :D I'll see what I can do... To get the equation of the tangent line, first we need a slope. to get that slope, we need the derivative. So what's the derivative (go ahead and express it first in limitform)
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\[\huge \lim_{h \rightarrow o}\frac{ (x+h)2 }{ (x+h)+2 }  \frac{ x2 }{ x+2 }\]
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
nope... you forgot that all that must also be divided by h... small details, but no less important...
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ohh i did :$
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
tsk \[\huge \lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{\frac{ (x+h)2 }{ (x+h)+2 }  \frac{ x2 }{ x+2 }}{h}\]
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Right, well this can also be written as \[\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{1}{h}\left( \frac{ (x+h)2 }{ (x+h)+2 }  \frac{ x2 }{ x+2 } \right)\]
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh okayy
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
now \[\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{1}{h}\frac{\left[ \left( x+h \right)2 \right]\left( x+2 \right)\left[ \left( x+h \right)+2 \right]\left( x2 \right)}{\left[ \left( x+h \right)+2 \right]\left( x+2 \right)}\] o.O
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
wait, how did you get rid of those fractions ?
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Like magic :P \[\frac{a}{b}+\frac{c}{d}=\frac{ad+bc}{bd}\]
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Get it now?
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeaaah ! i do
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
and then cancelling
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Hey, there's nothing you can cancel...
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
then expansion and cancelling out the like terms
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Nothing that would you do you much good, anyway... Here's a tricky bit of manipulation \[\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{1}{h}\frac{\left[ \left( x+h \right)2 \right]\left( x+2 \right)(x2)(x+2)+(x2)(x+2)\left[ \left( x+h \right)+2 \right]\left( x2 \right)}{\left[ \left( x+h \right)+2 \right]\left( x+2 \right)}\]
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
All right, scratch everything, I overlooked one important detail...
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You only need to get its slope on the specific case where x = 0 right?
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Use this definition of derivative instead: \[f'(c)=\lim_{x \rightarrow c}\frac{f(x)f(c)}{xc}\]
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burhan101 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
whats c ?
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terenzreignz Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Sorry for this extremely late reply, I was busy with something :( c is 0.
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