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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
have u done parametric equations?
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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
and do you know cartesian coordinates?
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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
lets take the feet of the archer to be (0,0)
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
these are the points i got (0,1.39) (18,8) (45,0) :/
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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
very good..now we need an equation which relates x and y dont we?
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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
lets say he launches the arrow with a horizontal velocity of v..the vertical velocity initaially is zero
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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
can u tell me the xcoordinate at any point in time?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
hmm, i don't know :/ ? im not very good at math.. ha
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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
distance is speed x time..since there is no acceleration in the xdirection, the speed always remains v..so x = vt
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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
understand?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeah,, kindaa
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him1618 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
similarly, there is a downward acceleration of 10 m/s^2 in the ydirection.. in the presence of accn, we have the distance covered as 0.5at^2, where a=accn since we are starting at y=1.39 m, we remodel y as 1.39  0.5at^2, a= 10 therefore y= 1.39  5t^2
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
my teacher said that i would have to use quadratic equation to do this problem thou ..does this lead to that orr? :/
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I posted an answer to this same question (but a different user posted it) But the problem is I don't believe the height of A. You have it as 8 cm. In the real world, this problem does not make sense. Are you sure about the height?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeah, there's a diagram , i forgot what their called .. but next to the bulls eye it says A (8cm)
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
my teacher also said The distance from the top edge of the archery target to the ground is 1.5 meters
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Here is the other post http://openstudy.com/users/phi#/updates/507e201be4b0919a3cf31396
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
The distance from the top edge of the archery target to the ground is 1.5 meters That is very important. Is the picture the same as in the post I just listed?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yess, it is
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so you use the picture to find the height of A above the ground dw:1350594969329:dw
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
In my post I just assumed A was at (18,1.35) however, based on your new info, A is at (18,1.26) so the numbers have to be redone.
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I did not explain where the equations come from (it's physics), so it is just showing the math
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so all i need to do now would be to use the equation ax^2+bx+c ? & then put the #'s in ?
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
did you find my writeup (it's an attachment in the 2nd to last post)
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yes got it, you are awesomee! <33 i don't know what i would of donee. haha
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
where did you get the 4.9 from?
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I used g= 9.8 m/s^2 in 1/2 g t^2
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you have to redo the numbers. And I notice a typo... but it all changes anyway...
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
is the 1.035 the mistake?
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
yes, that should have been 1.35 but now it should be 1.26
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeahh :) 18tanθ + 0.04 where did the 0.04 come from?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
nevermind, i know now (:
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
let me know what you get, and I'll double check it.
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
what does that zero thing mean after tan ? −18tanθ
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
which equation number are you looking at?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
0 =−18tanθ − 0.04 /18^2 45^2 + 45tanθ +1.39
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I used the point (45,0) in the equation (the arrow hits the ground y=0 45 meters away from the archer x=45 so that 0 is y
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I labeled this equation (6) so you can refer to it.
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i mean like how did you get this  tanθ =19/1125 = 0.0168
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
solve for tanθ it is a bit messy, and I did not bother to write it all down. It is algebra. You do know algebra :)
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
haha yeah, wasnt the best at it but i know what tan is ..so i would type in my calculator 18tan ___? what goes in the blank thou :/
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
are you working with the new numbers, or just working through the numbers in this old post?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
new numbers, haha
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
what equation do you have now?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i have 0 = 18tan  0.13 / 18^2? :/
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
what about the rest? I would expect to see \[ y= \frac{18 \tan(\theta)0.13}{18^2}x^2 + x \tan(\theta)+1.39\]
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeaah i have it, i forgot to say that
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i actually have for the rest 45^2 + 45 tan + 1.39
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
yes, after you sub in (45,0) you get \[ 0= \frac{18\tan(\theta)0.13}{18^2}45^2+45 \tan(\theta)+1.39\]
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeah :) but then i get confused after that bit because i dont know how you got 19/1125
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
get out a piece of paper and use the distributive property and rewrite the equation \[ 0= \frac{45^2\tan(\theta)}{18} \frac{0.13}{18^2}45^2+45 \tan(\theta)+1.39\] I divided everything by 45: \[ 0= \frac{45}{18}\tan(\theta) \frac{0.13}{18^2}45+ \tan(\theta)+\frac{1.39}{45}\] the 45/18 simplifies to 5/2. I moved the tan terms together \[ 0= (1\frac{5}{2})\tan(\theta) \frac{0.13}{18}\cdot \frac{5}{2}+\frac{1.39}{45}\] you can finish I hope
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yes, thank you soo soo much for the help :)
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
post your results. I'll check back laster.
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
will do :)
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TiffanyLee3 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Has anyone figured this out?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
not yet, still trying to figure it out :)
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i figure out that it would be 0.0128333 ..so y = ____x^2 + 0.0128333+1.39 but i can't figure out what the other # is :/
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
how did you get 0.01283... ?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
from 0=(15/2)tan  0.13/18 x 5/2 + 1.39/45 :/
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you start with \[ 0= (1\frac{5}{2})\tan(\theta) \frac{0.13}{18}\cdot \frac{5}{2}+\frac{1.39}{45}\] 15/2 is 2/2 5/2= 3/2 \[0=\frac{3}{2}\tan(\theta) \frac{0.13}{18}\cdot \frac{5}{2}+\frac{1.39}{45}\] or \[\frac{3}{2}\tan(\theta) = \frac{0.13}{18}\cdot \frac{5}{2}+\frac{1.39}{45}\] the stuff on the right simplifies to 77/6000 (which is 0.01283...) \[\frac{3}{2}\tan(\theta) = \frac{77}{6000} \] and \[\tan(\theta) = \frac{77}{6000}\cdot \frac{2}{3}\]
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so 0.085
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so tanθ = 77/9000 = 0.008555... that is your coefficient on x you can find the coefficient of the x^2 term by replacing tanθ
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I think you missed a decimal place
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeah, haha ..sorry 0.0085 ..so i would use that & the number i said up there^^?
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
\[ y= \frac{18 \tan(\theta)0.13}{18^2}x^2 + x \tan(\theta)+1.39 \] you need to find the coeff for the x^2 term. but you know tan so you can simplify
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i just got kinda confused :(
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Yes, this is a complicated problem, and you have to be methodical. If you look at my pdf, we got to equation (5). Then we sub in (45,0) and solved for tan= 77/9000 now you can replace tanθ in equation (5): \[ y= \frac{18 \tan(\theta)0.13}{18^2}x^2 + x \tan(\theta)+1.39 \] you will get a parabola with numbers for coefficients
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
just get out your calculator or type it in google: (18*77/9000 0.13)/(18^2)=
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
0009765
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
oooh, Detroit swept the Yankees 4 games to 0. Detroit is off to the World Series
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
haha, i dont watch that ..but woo for them! :D
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you have to be more careful. put in a decimal point, and it is not 9 for the first digit
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
8 i meaan (:
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i mean 0.0008765
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so now you have the full equation.
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yay ..so do i use the 0.0085 & that?:)
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
omg, i would of never done this without you
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you still have to find the max height of y
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yeahh , so i did that next step ..which i got 3.725
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The next step is to find x where the parabola peaks. The way the problem is set up, the archer is at x=0 and the target at x=18 x= 3.7.. is behind the archer. So maybe you got the wrong sign?
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
How did you find x?
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
how did i get 3.725? :/
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
if you have y = ax^2 +bx+c you should use x_max= b/(2a)
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yes i used b/2a to get the answer 3.7
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
maybe you should type out the equation y = 0.0008765 x^2 + 0.0085 x + 1.39
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yess, i wrote that down on my paper :) haha
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
but i had it the wrong way around :/ oh
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
yes, I notice you are not careful enough.
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
im confused on what to do next
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
y = 0.0008765 x^2 + 0.0085 x + 1.39 type in google  0.0085/(2*0.0008765)=
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heathernelly Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
4.8488
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
much better. that is the x value where the parabola peaks. what is the y value at that x value?
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phi Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
type this in google 0.0008765*4.8488^2 + 0.0085*4.8488 + 1.39=
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