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what were conditions like for workers before the beginning of the labor movement

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    Horrible, the conditions were very poor but people were desperate to hold on to these jobs. They barely got paid enough to make end's meet and was much less than the work they had to put in. Regardless of age they were forced to work in areas that were extremely dangerous and unhealthy. The standard of living was very low and unsatisfactory. There were no pension systems so they had to keep working even at old ages. Children had to work and bring home money, after they stopped allowing children to work they threw them out since they didn't have the money to keep them. Women were payed less then men.

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    About the same. The labor movement has been, when all is said and done, an enormous failure, which is the main reason it has shriveled to nearly nothing these days. I think maybe 5% of all private workers are unionized, and the only reason the labor movement retains any influence at all is because of government unions, which are generally a corrupt bargain between elected officials and union organizers. It turns out that the only effective way to ensure equitable negotiations between labor and management is individually, and by empowering individuals with (1) knowledge, both of conditions elsewhere (so they can compare) and of their civil rights, and (2) courts of law in which they could successfully sue for violation of their rights, and (3) the prosperity and technology necessary to "vote with their feet" when necessary, and move from jobs, locations, and jurisdictions that have stupid rules to places where they can prosper. This is why, for example, American states with laws strongly influenced by the traditional labor movement, like Michigan, are in a state of demographic and economic collapse, whereas states with laws largely uninfluenced by the labor movement, like Texas and South Carolina, are prosperous and growing. The fact that people can simply up stakes and move when conditions become intolerable helps to put a stop to the evils of misguided law. In the present case, either Michigan will become a ghostland or it will revise its law. Either way, fewer and fewer people will be harmed by it.

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