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zepdrix
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Calc 3 Problem  Tricky Integral
\[\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{ \arctan \pi x \arctan x }{ x } dx\]
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zepdrix Group Title
Calc 3 Problem  Tricky Integral \[\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{ \arctan \pi x \arctan x }{ x } dx\]
 2 years ago
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johnsonshelby Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Nevermind, haha The equation wasn't showing up correctly. It is now, hang on a minute
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johnsonshelby Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Are you getting imaginary numbers with this?
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Hmmm I don't think so :D And for the life of me, I can't remember the hint that the teacher gave us lol. Something aboutttttt try to rewrite it as the derivative of something else that is easier to integrate, orrrrrr maybe, rewrite it as a double integral somehow, blah i forget what he said XD lolol
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johnsonshelby Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I'm getting something crazy like 1/2 (l1 i)... I don't think that is right, merp ... sorry :(
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dpaInc Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
when you think about it, all problems are tricky... otherwise they wouldn't be problems... :)
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Hmm I found the problem on physicsforum.com. I might be able to get through this one if I just try hard enough c:
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johnsonshelby Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Good luck young grasshopper :)
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=610439 Hmmm trying to make sense of that...
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johnsonshelby Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh, I love physicsforums :) Did you get it?
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Nah it's hurting by head XD maybe ill take a look at it later :3
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Zarkon Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{ \arctan (\pi x) \arctan (x) }{ x } dx\] \[=\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\int\limits_{x}^{\pi x}\frac{1}{1+y^2}\frac{1}{x}dydx\] \[=\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\int\limits_{y/\pi}^{y}\frac{1}{1+y^2}\frac{1}{x}dxdy=\cdots\]
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klimenkov Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
By the way, @zepdrix , can you speak Russian?
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
No sorry c:
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klimenkov Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Don't read the text, just see the formula. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8B_%D0%A4%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
This problem is starting to make sense, I'm trying to understand how Zarkon switched the integrals though. From the second to the third step, we are integrating with resepect to X first now, but how did he come up with the limits? :( hmm
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Google translating the text helped a little bit :D heh thanks
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klimenkov Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
The second formula is your case, \(f(x)=\arctan x\).\[\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{ \arctan \pi x \arctan x }{ x } dx=(0\frac{\pi}2)\ln\frac1\pi=\frac\pi2\ln\pi\]
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Ya i need to try and show the steps though :d not just a shortcut. And the proof on that page is rather involved :3 heh
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klimenkov Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
You can ask me anything, because russian mathematicians use sometimes another designation for popular objects in math.
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dw:1351978258980:dw
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dw:1351978595163:dw
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Zarkon Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\int\limits_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^2}dy=\lim_{t\to\infty}\int\limits_{0}^{t}\frac{1}{1+y^2}dy\] \[=\left.\lim_{t\to\infty}\arctan(y)\right _{0}^{t}=\lim_{t\to\infty}\arctan(t)\arctan(0)=\frac{\pi}{2}0=\frac{\pi}{2}\] combine with the above
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