1. Faman39

2. Faman39

@JakeV8 if u are free can you able to help me with it :)

3. Faman39

@phi can you able to help me wit this?

4. juanjohnguy

What is it that you needed help understanding?

5. Faman39

6. juanjohnguy

no i know but i mean i know what the answer is and I'm pretty sure i'm right, but I was asking more so as to why you gave 24 as the answer

7. juanjohnguy

In other words explain to me your reasoning

8. Faman39

Thought i have to multiply, 6*4

9. juanjohnguy

The question is asking for what length of fencing you need to enclose the garden, what you are doing is finding the area which would be the same as saying that you wanted to fill the whole inner spacing of the garden rather what we really want which is around the outside of the garden

10. juanjohnguy

Does that help?

11. Faman39

No i cant really get it

12. juanjohnguy

Basically what the question is asking is for you to find the perimeter of the figure that is shown.

13. Faman39

12?

14. juanjohnguy

Do you know how to go about find the perimeter of an object?

15. Faman39

Actually i forgot

16. Faman39

:(

17. juanjohnguy

When you find the perimeter of an object, let's us an example of a square and lets say that we know the lengths of all the sides of the square

18. Faman39

It is tough to me, i think we need to break that shape

19. juanjohnguy

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20. juanjohnguy

basically what we do to find the perimeter is to find the "fencing" or the sum of the lengths of the outside of the box

21. Faman39

16?

22. juanjohnguy

yes for this case, the box that i provided it would be 16

23. Faman39

But it is not in the option

24. Faman39

So how can it be?

25. juanjohnguy

No i know I provided an example that I made up just now

26. juanjohnguy

My example was to help you understand trying to find the perimeter of something

27. juanjohnguy

So now that you know that all you need to do is add up the lengths of all the sides, try doing it for the problem that was given to you

28. Faman39

13 :)

29. Faman39

Thank u sooooooo much!!!!!!!! your amazing!!!!!!!! wow!

30. Faman39

thanks alot :)

31. juanjohnguy

No problem but that isnt the answer

32. juanjohnguy

33. Faman39

no

34. Faman39

How ?

35. juanjohnguy

Don't forget to count the sides that have no length to them

36. Faman39

thats make me problem, those are unknown, so how will i ?

37. Faman39

do it ?

38. juanjohnguy

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39. juanjohnguy

You need to find the lengths of x and then you need to find the length of y

40. Faman39

But how will. i do it?

41. juanjohnguy

Well you can notice that the object is not a full rectangle, it almost appears as if a piece was taken out of it

42. juanjohnguy

so then...

43. juanjohnguy

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44. juanjohnguy

This is was the object would look like if we "added" the missing piece to it

45. Faman39

4 more or what?

46. juanjohnguy

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47. juanjohnguy

Let me explain my picture here so i don't confuse

48. juanjohnguy

Basically since i added a piece to make it into a rectangle, we notice that for the right side of the completed rectangle.....when we add the missing piece, that side must be the same length as the other side and we see that the other side (the left side) has a length of 4......the same thing applies for the bottom part.....we notice that now that i added the missing piece to form a perfect rectangle, the bottom needs to be the same length as the top so the bottom (with the missing piece) need to be 6 just like the length of the top

49. juanjohnguy

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50. juanjohnguy

So then with this final picture we can see that when we take the missing piece back out, we have the picture that is given as your problem but we still notice that the bottom needs to equal to a length of 6 and the right side needs to equal to a length of 4

51. juanjohnguy

so to make things more simple, to find the length of x we need to think " 2 + what = 6" and to find the length of y we need to think "1 + what = 4

52. Faman39

8

53. Faman39

and 5

54. juanjohnguy

So you think that x is 8 and y is 5?

55. Faman39

yes u told to add, thats y

56. juanjohnguy

I meant to say one plus what number equals 4 to find x

57. juanjohnguy

oops sorry i meant y

58. juanjohnguy

so one plus "a number" equals 4 to find y

59. juanjohnguy

and 2 plus "a number" equals 6 to find x

60. Faman39

5 and 8, isnt it?

61. Faman39

hold on, i will be back in a min

62. juanjohnguy

alright

63. Faman39

pls dont go anywhere

64. Faman39

thank you so so much! :)

65. juanjohnguy

Well so what you are saying when you say that x = 5 and y= 8 is that 2 + 5 = 6 and 1 + 8 = 4

66. Faman39

8 + 1 would be the 4?

67. Faman39

it suppose to be 9?

68. juanjohnguy

let me restate what i was trying to ask

69. Faman39

oh ok

70. juanjohnguy

1 + y = 4 2 + x = 6

71. juanjohnguy

and I'm asking you to solve for y in the first equation

72. juanjohnguy

and then solve for x in the second equation

73. Faman39

y is 5 and x is 8, right?

74. juanjohnguy

Not quite, let me show you how to do the first one and then try to do the second one by yourself again

75. Faman39

ok

76. juanjohnguy

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77. juanjohnguy

so the -1 under the 1 and the 4 shows that i subtracted 1 from both sides so that i could get rid of the one that was connected to the y

78. juanjohnguy

also the way I got rid of the 1 from the right is that we know that the one on the left side is a positive one and to get rid of it we want to make that one turn to a zero......so we subtract from a positive one so that 1- 1 = 0 which is how we can get the y by itself

79. Faman39

second is 4

80. juanjohnguy

Yes you are right for the second one

81. Faman39

x = 4

82. Faman39

same way i have to subtract

83. Faman39

got this

84. juanjohnguy

so then now we know what y is and x is then we put them in for the lengths of the object

85. juanjohnguy

and add the lengths of all the sides

86. Faman39

6 + 4 + 2 + 7 + 1 = 20

87. juanjohnguy

Correct!

88. Faman39

Wow, thats a long process, thank you so much @juanjohnguy !!! your totally amazing

89. Faman39

:) thank you so much helping alot with toleratin me, i m such a pain abt math

90. Faman39

i m so sorry i already kept you so long with this

91. juanjohnguy

Oh it's not problem, I'm just glad you understand now

92. juanjohnguy

And don't worry about it, I'm working on homework right now so while you where typing and trying to understand i was doing my homework

93. Faman39

Thank you so much :) you make this happend , it wasnt possible for me to understand

94. Faman39

95. Faman39

ok you should go now, do your work cuz i took alot of ur time

96. Faman39

i m so sorry

97. juanjohnguy

No reason to be sorry, as I said i'm just glad that you where able to understand

98. Faman39

:) thanks alot!

99. juanjohnguy

No problem :)

100. Faman39

:)