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A picture I would like to share with the biology group: Some of the ideas about our beloved membranes
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Frostbite Group Title
A picture I would like to share with the biology group: Some of the ideas about our beloved membranes
 2 years ago
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InYourHead Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
WHAT the flip is this?
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Frostbite Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
THIS is how we "should" describe a membrane :P
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TranceNova Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
You make me wish I knew more about membranes. Can you describe your diagram a little more? :D
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SchoolSlacker Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
That I would like to learn.
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Frostbite Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Sure can TranceNova :D ****************************************** ***************WARNING***************** ****************************************** *****Mathematics and Physics ahead***** ****************************************** First a minor history: It is not unusual that the lipid bilayer of a membrane can be modeled as a twodimensional surface embedded in threedimensinal euclidean space. In this kind of modeling, proteins or other entities that can bind to the membrane as represented by solid particles that impose deformations/curvatures in the surface. Acording to physics/chemicalphysics the behavior of the membrane under deformations can be predicted by knowing the change in energy. Wolfram Helfrich suggested in 1973 that the deformation energy of a thin fluid membrane as a sum of three energies: The bending energy, the frame energy and the energy as result of change in gaussian curvature. The bending energy: \[E _{bending}=\frac{ \kappa A }{ 2 }(HH _{0})\] The frame energy: \[E _{frame }=\sigma(AA _{flat})\] The gaussian energy: \[E _{graussian}=\kappa \prime K A\] Many of the equations shown the diagram can be deduced from the three equations here. But now to the main point: A description of the diagram. The diagram show what kind of models that works within property of the change in time (change in time > change in energy (perhaps)) and the lenght scale/zoom. Depending on what we research in, where a membrane is involved, we need to be aware on this concept becuase the model we use make a limit to fx only see the initial energy of the membrane insted of the change over time.
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agreene Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I do Computational Biophysics & Biochemistry, although I don't model cell membranes, this is more or less how I view DNA and Ligand interactions ;) It's always fun to see the math behind the structures.
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SchoolSlacker Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
This is very interesting, thanks for sharing. :)
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rahulchatterjee Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
what those parameters refer to??
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Frostbite Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@rahulchatterjee If you are thinking about the equations i set up the in aditional answer it is as follow: Equation 1: H = C1 + C2 where the following is: C1 and C2 are the principal curvatures when the membrane is modeled as a surface embedded in 3dimensional space and H0 is the spontaneous curvature of the membrane, κ is the bending rigidity, A is the surface area of a piece of the membrane which is denoted as a domain. Equation 2: σ is the frame tension and Aflat is the projected area of the membrane domain area A onto the flat plane. Equation 3: κ' is the splay modulus and K is the Gaussian curvature over the membrane domain with area A.
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Frostbite Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Else if you want to know more about it read about the Helfrich Hamiltonian Membrane
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