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Tell me what i'm doing wrong, picture is attached.

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  2. Skaematik Group Title
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    3rd to 4th line - the numerator shows s^3 but a c appeared

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  3. Dido525 Group Title
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    You also made a mistake on the RHS. You can't cross out the sin's and cos's like that.

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  4. Dido525 Group Title
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    Instead there is a trig identity there.

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  5. burhan101 Group Title
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    how do i fix this ? :S

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  6. Dido525 Group Title
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    There is a trig identity on the RHS.

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  7. Skaematik Group Title
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    At the 4th line, try combining the denominator

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    |dw:1353385333795:dw|

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    Doesnt the denominator get cancelled out already ?

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    @Dido525 like this |dw:1353385466311:dw|

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    |dw:1353385495522:dw|

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    |dw:1353385573816:dw|

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  13. Dido525 Group Title
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    Yeah that's right.

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  14. Skaematik Group Title
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    For the left hand side, from the 3rd line, combine the denominator Then, factor the numerator This will allow you to use a trig identity to prove the original equation

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    I misread sorry.

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    it's okay, but is that way correct now ?

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    yes its right

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    Yes that is correct.

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    @Skaematik like this |dw:1353385871631:dw|

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    no

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    \[\frac{ s ^{4}+c ^{4}+2s ^{2}c ^{2} }{ cs }\]

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    i'm having difficulties seeing how it get's the fourth power, can you please explain

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  23. Dido525 Group Title
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    @burhan101 : TO be honest I would only change ONE side to try and make it equal to the other not manipulate both.

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    \[\frac{ s ^{2}s }{ c } + \frac{ c ^{2}c }{ s } + 2s\]

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    Make the denominator cs Multiply 1st term by s Multiply 2nd term by c Multiply 3rd term by cs

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    @dido525 changing the RHS is perfectly OK, in most cases it is actually the only way you can solve the problem without spending 234098723094 hours trying to go through ridiculous transformations

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    Meh.

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    @Dido525 yes, that's what my teacher want's us to try to do too, but im having alot of problems with this question, seems very complicated -.-

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    Ohh!!! Hold on I am getting close!

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    Okay :)

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    Got it!!!!!

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  32. Dido525 Group Title
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    And I only changed one side :) .

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    Okay. The idea is we want to start with the complicated side. Lets choose the left side.

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    Okay?

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    okay !

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    should we start fresh, from the given problem ?

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    yes :) .

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    Alrightt !

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  39. Dido525 Group Title
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    So we have: |dw:1353386616775:dw|

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    You know:|dw:1353386673693:dw|

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  41. burhan101 Group Title
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    yup

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  42. Dido525 Group Title
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    I would change the sin^2(x) and cos^2(x) To match that formula :) .

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    Ohhh okay !

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    Tell me what you get.

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    |dw:1353386849843:dw| DO we change that into a one, or no ?

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    i think i'm wrong -_-

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  47. Dido525 Group Title
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    No you do not change that to a one.

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  48. burhan101 Group Title
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    okay so first we change everything to sin & cos

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  49. Dido525 Group Title
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    Well if sin^2(x) + cos^(x) =1 that what is Sin^2(x) equal to?

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    No no!!!

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    We want to keep tan and cot.

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    why? that's how im taught to do it haha :$

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    it would be equal to 1/2

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  54. Dido525 Group Title
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    But since we have a tan and cot on the other side it's natural we want to keep it that way :P . I was taught that way too ^_^ . Sometiems we gotta break the rules.

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  55. burhan101 Group Title
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    ohhh alright, i see what you're saying

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  56. Dido525 Group Title
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    So what do you get? Feel free to do it on paper and take pics.

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    burhan, don't listen to him. You CAN change the right hand side (cot and tan). And sometimes you must. It makes no sense not to change them

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    @Skaematik : But his teacher wants him to only change one side.

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    It only took 4 steps lol @Skaematik .

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    No....

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    @Skaematik i know i can but the thing is i have to do it my teacher's method or she takes off marks :(

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    @Dido525 oh no :(

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    sorry, im SO confused tho

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    |dw:1353387439718:dw|

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    :) .

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    I am SURE you can do the rest :) .

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    Expand it out and change the Tan(x) and Cot(x) into Sin's and cos's .

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    okay, i will try

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    |dw:1353387756754:dw|

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    multiply those like that ?

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    Yep!

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    like that :S

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    Good but leave sin(x)/cos(x) as Tan(x) and the cos(x)/sin(x) as Cot(x) .

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    i can't i get marks taken off if i do, my teacher has a checklist that we MUST follow or she takes off marks :P

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    okay, i don't know what to do from here on

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    I would riot at the teacher TBH.

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    Okay then.

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    haha trust me me too :P

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    We can cancel out a cos(x) from the first fraction and a sin(x) from the other fraction. You notice that?

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    You have very neat handwriting Btw.

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    Thank-you :)

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  83. burhan101 Group Title
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    Like so :

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    You Cannot do this!!!

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    ohh

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    |dw:1353388449271:dw| No!!!

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    then what do i cancel out . :S

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    You can only cancel out terms if they have the same common denominator. You do not have the same common denominator in this case :) .

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    oh yeah, wooops

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    |dw:1353388530585:dw|

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    I KNOW you can solve the rest!

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    does it look like this,

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    Yep!

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    DO YOU NOTICE SOMETHING YOU CAN CANCEL?!?!!?!

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    So rry... I am a bit of a math freak lol.

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    i'm afraid not :(

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    Look harder!!! We have a 2Sin(x)scos(x) . We can eliminate that!!! We

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    Do you see how?!?!?!

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    sin^2x ?

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    No!!!

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    OH i think i see it

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    -sinxcosx+2sinxcosx= sinxcosx

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    VERY CLOSE!!!! We can get rid of that too!!!

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    ohh i see it again haha |dw:1353389264088:dw|

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    Yep!!!

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    Yaaay ! :D

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    So now we have: |dw:1353389317704:dw|

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    one ?

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    no

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    |dw:1353389480538:dw|

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    You know sin(x)/cos(x) is tan (x) :P .

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    yuppp & cosx/sinx = cot

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    GOod!

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    |dw:1353389561044:dw|

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    Hence proved :) .

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    THANKYOU ! i swear only you had the patience to help me for so long ^.^ :)

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    I remember I helped someone for 2 hour slol.

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    thanksss again :D i would give you a cookie if i could haha

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    I swear if the teacher takes marks off you need to protest. All of this is valid.

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    I don't think she will because i changed the format to accommodate how she likes to mark !

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