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inkyvoyd
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Polar functions and derivatives:
1. show that the cardioid r=1+sin(theta) has a horizontal tangent line when r=1/2
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inkyvoyd Group Title
Polar functions and derivatives: 1. show that the cardioid r=1+sin(theta) has a horizontal tangent line when r=1/2
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
For some reason I don't think I'm doing this right...
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I calculated d(theta)/dr implicitly, getting 1=0+cos(theta)d(theta)/dr sec(theta)=d(theta)/dr Then I tried to express theta in terms of r, so I used the equation and substituted r=1/2 1/2=1+sin(theta) sin(theta)=1/2 Now what?
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I tried to turn sin(theta)=1/2 into secant theta, but the answer I'm getting is cos(theta)=pm 2/(sqrt 3)
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@amistre64 , got any ideas what I"m donig wrong?
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
you need to work out dy/dx and set it to zero. see here for a good guide on how to do this: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcII/PolarTangents.aspx
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
the puals website is a great resource indeed
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh I c, I'm supposed to convert it into a cartesian equation?
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
The question is, why can't I work with it while it's in polar form?
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
no need to convert  look at notes in the link I gave and all will become apparent :)
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i could be wrong, but i think it is \[\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{\frac{dr}{d\theta}\sin(\theta)+r\cos(\theta)}{\frac{dr}{d\theta}\cos(\theta)r\sin(\theta)}\]
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
^^  that is basically the summary result
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
so you just need to calculate dr/d(theta)
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh look! paul saves the day again. whew.
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Oh wow  thanks!
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
plug the result in the equation above, set it to zero and solve
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
there is one slight /twist/ in the solution  hopefully you will be able to see it :)
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mahmit2012 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dw:1353710144960:dw
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@asnaseer , for my discussion I also need to determine when the function has verticle tangent lines. The only problem is that I'm getting expression (2sin th+1)(cos th)/(2sin^2 th) for dy/dx  meaning that I should have a vertical tangent line when 2sin^2 th=0, but solving for that equation gives me sin th=pi(any integer), which is obviously incorrect. What am I doing incorrectly?
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inkyvoyd Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
corrction, th=pi*(any integer)
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asnaseer Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
I calculated the derivative as:\[\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{\cos(\theta)(2\sin(\theta)+1)}{1\sin(\theta)2\sin^2(\theta)}=\frac{\cos(\theta)(2\sin(\theta)+1)}{(1+\sin(\theta))(12\sin(\theta))}\]
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