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MarcLeclair
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The crosssection of a tunnel has the form
of a rectangle surmounted by a semicircle.
The perimeter of this cross section is 18 meters.
For what radius of the semicircle will
the crosssection have maximum area?
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MarcLeclair Group Title
The crosssection of a tunnel has the form of a rectangle surmounted by a semicircle. The perimeter of this cross section is 18 meters. For what radius of the semicircle will the crosssection have maximum area?
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dw:1354534273826:dw thats what i get as a drawing but i cant seem to get the good equations :/
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
okay, for this question, you have two equations. one is the perimeter, and the other is the area. can you formulate both equations?
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Well that's where I am "chocking". For the Perimeter do i do: 2(Pi)(r) / 2 + (L+2w) Or do I assume the triangle has 4 side, or was my formulation alright? For the area, hum I would presume (Pi)(r^ 2)/2 + (w)(l)
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
well, since the circle is on the rectangle, dw:1354534781253:dw so, the length of the rectangle is 2r
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so, you have two unknowns.
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
but wait ,is that how its drawn actually ? It was a guess of mine. Can't I just divided it in 2 ( so perimeter of rectangle + perimeter of circle)? But with my way i end up with 3 unknown... So I have to change my length = 2r ?
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yup. (the word "surmounted" tells me that) yup, try to formulate so you end up with two unknowns only, before subbing one of them into the second eq.
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
oh dear its going to look ugly though... I'll try it out and see if i need further help
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
definitely looks like it. good luck. :) okay.
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yikes I'm getting this as the area ( (12)(pi)r^ 3  252(pi)r^ 2 +648r ) /2 Derivative gives me some crazy number ( a parabola). When I try to factor i get in the 4 digit number. I find it a bit high x.x
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
im getting \(A=9rr^2\) though....
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
huh how, i get this (186(pi)r) / 2 = l And your are is A=(pi)(r)^ 2 * l*w and I reaplce the l with the above expression and w with 2 r
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therefore (pi)(r)^ 2 * ( (186(pi)r) / 2 * 2r)
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\(\pi r + 2r + 2y=18\) \(y=9\frac{(\pi+2)r}{2}\) sub into \(A=\frac{\pi r^2}{2} + ry\)
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
wait you should have 4r because if you divide the rectangles width ( or x ) in 2r , than its perimeter is 4r + 2y
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yes, but one side is covered by the semicircle, so one of its side isn't in the perimeter.
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dw:1354537063461:dw
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
there you go, thats where i screwed up... god I'm retarded...
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
lol nah, i think it's because my drawing is damn ugly. lol
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MarcLeclair Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ah! got it hahahaha thanks a lot mate! :D
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
lol you're welcome :)
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