What's the big difference between "Side Angle Side" and "Side Side Side"? I'm confused

- anonymous

What's the big difference between "Side Angle Side" and "Side Side Side"? I'm confused

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- jim_thompson5910

with "Side Angle Side", you have 2 sides and an included angle
pic:
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with "Side Side Side", you have 3 sides
pic:
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- anonymous

thankyou! that helped a lot! :) can you help me with more? My grade went down because of this thing. :(

- anonymous

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ASA
SSS
SAS
not enough information

- anonymous

which one would it be?

- jim_thompson5910

so using the info i gave above, which one are you thinking?

- anonymous

sss?

- anonymous

sas?

- anonymous

:/

- jim_thompson5910

yes, SSS

- jim_thompson5910

you have 3 corresponding sides equal ----> SSS

- anonymous

you sure? I need to get all of these right. No "I think"

- jim_thompson5910

I'm very sure

- jim_thompson5910

I've done this many times so I'm very familiar with all the triangle congruence properties

- anonymous

would this be sas or asa?

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- jim_thompson5910

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- jim_thompson5910

notice this
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so those two sides (which form the first S) are congruent

- anonymous

is the second one i just posted sas?

- jim_thompson5910

the other one, you have 2 sides and an angle (angle is between the two sides)

- jim_thompson5910

yep

- anonymous

I'm really confused with this one. :/

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- jim_thompson5910

you CANNOT use SSA because there's no one unique triangle that SSA makes
so there are no guarantees that those two triangles are congruent if you use SSA

- anonymous

so, asa or not enough information?

- jim_thompson5910

not enough info
SSA always leads to "not enough info"

- jim_thompson5910

always

- anonymous

the options were asa, sss, sas, and no enough info. not ssa

- jim_thompson5910

i know, that's because SSA isn't a valid congruence property

- anonymous

I'm guessing this one is ASA?

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- jim_thompson5910

yep

- anonymous

10. A C (1 point)
Alternate Exterior Angles
Alternate Interior Angles
Vertical Angles
They look the same.

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- anonymous

I'm guessing vertical?

- jim_thompson5910

no, vertical angles look like this
|dw:1354653660952:dw|

- anonymous

oh yeah lol

- anonymous

exterior?

- jim_thompson5910

nope

- anonymous

they look the same? :/

- jim_thompson5910

you have 2 parallel lines and the angles are on the INSIDE of them

- jim_thompson5910

that's never a good reason in geometry

- jim_thompson5910

using "they look the same" is always a bad response because the drawing may not be to scale or it may be drawn poorly

- anonymous

I know it's a bad response but I'm confused D:

- jim_thompson5910

angles can't be parallel...so something is off

- anonymous

Oh wait.. does the = sign with the swirly thing on top mean congruent? xD

- jim_thompson5910

yeah

- anonymous

I probably got them mixed up! lol

- anonymous

okay, do you get it now?

- jim_thompson5910

that's fine, btw, to say "parallel" you type ||

- jim_thompson5910

yeah i already know the answer

- anonymous

what is it? And I wrote that down so I remember and don't act stupid :D

- jim_thompson5910

it's alternate interior angles
notice how they're on the inside of the parallel lines

- anonymous

Oh. I was paying more attention on the angles of them than where the line was. :) thanks. And can you help me on the last 2 too? :D

- jim_thompson5910

sure

- anonymous

It's the same picture for the last two, just different questions

- anonymous

- anonymous

Corresponding Angles
Vertical Angles Theorem
Alternate Interior Angles
Supplementary Angles

- anonymous

I think corresponding..o_ o

- anonymous

no wait..vertical! Right? :D

- jim_thompson5910

yep vertical

- jim_thompson5910

nice catch

- anonymous

This last one I really don't know..

- jim_thompson5910

you know this
< A = < C

- anonymous

Yes, but I still don't know the answer

- anonymous

pleeaaasee help I am so behind because I started school late Dx

- anonymous

And I have a month to get everything completed

- jim_thompson5910

Angle: < A = < C
Angle:

- anonymous

asa?

- anonymous

right? :D

- jim_thompson5910

correct

- jim_thompson5910

the side is between the angles

- anonymous

I got 11/12. :D The mistake being my own..:/

- anonymous

thank you! What grade are you in?

- jim_thompson5910

which one did you miss

- anonymous

the first one. Sad thing is I thought I really had it. it wasn't one you helped me on.

- anonymous

can you help me on other ones? :D five questions?

- jim_thompson5910

same type of problem though right?

- anonymous

R , S, and T are the vertices of one triangle. E, F, and D are the vertices of another triangle. mR = 60, mS = 80, mF = 60, mD = 40, RS = 4, and EF = 4. Are the two triangles congruent? If yes, explain and tell which segment is congruent to RT . (1 point)

- anonymous

yes, by ASA;
yes, by AAS;
yes, by SAS;
No, the two triangles are not congruent.

- anonymous

Do you know these?

- jim_thompson5910

this is what we're given
|dw:1354655142386:dw|

- jim_thompson5910

we can find this out
|dw:1354655272312:dw|

- jim_thompson5910

so if you flip the second triangle you get this
|dw:1354655318737:dw|

- jim_thompson5910

so we can use ASA
angle S = angle E (A)
RS = FE (S)
angle R = angle F (A)

- anonymous

so, yes, by sas, ed?

- jim_thompson5910

no, ASA
and what do you mean by ed?

- anonymous

That's what it says..Nevermind. The only one with ASA is FD

- jim_thompson5910

yeah RT = FD

- jim_thompson5910

you have to look at my last drawing

- anonymous

Thanks, Jim! :) :)

- anonymous

A, B, and C are the vertices of one triangle. D, E, and F are the vertices of another triangle. mâˆ A = 50, mâˆ B = 10, mâˆ E = 40, mâˆ F = 30, AB = 6, and DE = 6. Are the two triangles congruent If yes, explain why and tell which segment is congruent to AC . (1 point)

- anonymous

yes, by SAS;
yes, by ASA;
yes, by AAS;
No, the two triangles are not congruent.

- anonymous

I'm sure I could do these if I tried, but I really wanna get these done. :/

- jim_thompson5910

give it a shot, try drawing it out like i did it

- anonymous

please.. I have so much other school things to do. :( and you never told me what grade you're in

- jim_thompson5910

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- jim_thompson5910

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- jim_thompson5910

since these two triangles have 2 completely different sets of angles, they cannot be congruent

- anonymous

so, it would be the last one?

- jim_thompson5910

yes

- jim_thompson5910

they're 2 completely different triangles, so they aren't congruent

- anonymous

Supply the missing reasons to complete the proof.
Given:

- anonymous

ASA; substitution
SAS; Corresponding parts of are .
AAS; Corresponding parts of are .
ASA; Corresponding parts of are .

- anonymous

I feel so lazy but I really need these done

- jim_thompson5910

well i hate to tell you this, but laziness isn't a good excuse

- anonymous

how old are you

- jim_thompson5910

not sure how that matters or how that is relevent...

- jim_thompson5910

relevant*

- anonymous

And I have like almost 20 overdue assignments in each subject. I will do it when i get all on track. I usually don't cheat. But I feel it's the only way, I will get things done. And if that's what I have to do, than I will do it.

- anonymous

Well, I know it's not relevant, but i'm curious. :I

- anonymous

Can you at least show me how to do the last one I posted. I actually am confused with that one.

- jim_thompson5910

any ideas on this current problem?

- anonymous

I don't get it.

- anonymous

you sound old.

- jim_thompson5910

ok

- anonymous

Okay, I think it's SAS. Am I correct?

- anonymous

hello?

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