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SugarRainbow
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how to graph general rational functions?
like y=2x/x^21
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SugarRainbow Group Title
how to graph general rational functions? like y=2x/x^21
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
first, you'll need to know the asymptotes. in this case, as\(x^2 1 \neq 0\) \(x= \pm 1\) is the asymptotes.
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
then you'll need to know the max/min points. use differentiation to find them and plot the points.
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so like two and 1? also how do you know or like get if it has a 0 or not?
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
\(y=2x(x^21)^{1}\) \(y'=2(x^21)^{1} 2x(x^21)^{2} \)
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
how did you get the two and 1?
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
umm cuz there's a 2 and a 1? i was just trying but i knew it probably wasn't that easy
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
nope. you'll have to use the global max/min test to find the points. at the max points, their gradients=0, so y'=0.
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
is it because it's 2x it's zero? like cuz of the x or if not then plz explain that that global max/min test is cuz i don't get it
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
at the max point, dw:1355369628774:dw
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
wait. is this a precalculus question?
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
? that looks higher than 0 aka the 0 on the y axis unless that has somethin to do with the gradient cuz idk what that is and yes this is a precalc question though my algebra book has it in there.
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I put the question here and like in a few other math places cuz i thought maybe someone would answer my question cuz when i put it in only one i was waiting for like ten minutes and nobody answered
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay, then you might want to know that it should look like this.dw:1355369865285:dw without calculus, you'll just have to memorise the shape and plot points.
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
well i'm in precalc but i don't get what my teacher does so that's why i'm here. so just try to explain like if i'm five or really dumb and give reasons for what your doing like if i said why is 2+2=4? then say because if you had 2 pencils and you got two more you get 4! and you get 2+2 because adding is like getting more to what you have. see where i'm goin with this? so yes your graph is uh helpful but how and why did you get there?
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okaay, we both know that a fraction cannot have a zero at the bottom, right, or it won't exist. so, your fraction, y also cannot have a value of 0 for \(x^21\) or it doesn't exist.
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay so far so good next?
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
how ever, \(x^21\) can have a value very near 0, but not zero. the asymptotes are the lines where the fraction starts to get very very near infinity(it doesn't exist)
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i.e. the graph at those lines will go into infinity. (as shown in the pic on top)
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
umm real quick what is x was 1 then it would be 11 which is 0? or is it because it's 1 that that's where you graphed it?
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
since \(x^2 1\) cannot be zero, but can be very near zero, we need to find that limit. so, we let \(x^2 1=0\) and solve for x. then those values of x are the values that x can be very near to, but equal to.
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OH! okay! i understand!
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
glad you do. now, we need to know if there is a point of importance. Drawing the graph for y=2x and y=x^2 1, we can see that there is a point that both of them have, (0,0)
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so, the graph will near two asymptotes, one key point, and you just need two points, beside the key point. i.e. when x=0.1 and x=0.1 so that we know how the graph turns
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay i am really super sorry to bring this up but um i thought there couldn't be any zeros? or did you just round it to zero because the number it actally is 0.1 is really close to zero?
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
as long as the bottom is not zero, then there could be a zero. and yes, i chose 0.1 as it is very close to the key point, x=0.:)
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
OH so if x=0 then 0^21 would =1 and that's where a vertical asyptote in your graph is!!!
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
sorry, i guess i didn't explain what the key point is. the key point (0,0) is the point of inflexion, where the gradient(the shape) of the graph will change. 1 is obtained after \(x^21=0\)
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay so now what?
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Shadowys Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so, what did you get when x=0.1 and 0.1?
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SugarRainbow Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
x=.01and .2
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