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tanjung

simplify ...

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  1. tanjung
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    |dw:1356426308338:dw|

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  2. UnkleRhaukus
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    \[=\sum\limits_{n=4}^{25}\frac{1}{n^2+1}\]

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  3. tanjung
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    i think, the problem wants a rational number

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  4. UnkleRhaukus
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    hmm http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum+%281%2F%7Bn%5E2%2B1%7D%29+from+n%3D4+to+25 well it is rational, , ,

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  5. tanjung
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    if without wolfram ?

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  6. UnkleRhaukus
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    if we have interpreted the question correctly, and the wolfram result is the one you are aiming towards, then this wont be a nice problem ,

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  7. tanjung
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    hmmm... is there a method to calculating series of : 1/(n^2+1) + 1/((n+1)^2+1) + ... + 1/((n+k)^2+1) , @UnkleRhaukus ?

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  8. UnkleRhaukus
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    im not sure ,

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  9. UnkleRhaukus
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    what is the context that the problem came from ?

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  10. tanjung
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    this is a question from one of group math also, in my fb. the question ask to calculate or simplify it

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  11. wio
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    The real question is if there is a simplification of: \[ \sum \frac{1}{n^2+1} \]

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  12. wio
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    Like, maybe partial fraction decomposition could help us?

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  13. wio
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    I'm not familiar with this series actually. I'm not sure how to find it's partial sum.

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    @calculusfunctions that power series u use is for when \(|x|<1\)

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    @calculusfunctions @mukushla On the topic of the power series, there is this equation: \[\sum_{k=0}^{n}x^k = \frac{1-x^{n+1}}{1-x}\] If we suppose |x| < 1 and let n go to infinity, x^(n+1) converges to 0, so the power equation equation becomes \[\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} x^k = \frac{1}{1-x}\] So you can use the power series only to calculate infinite series if |x|<1, but as the sum is finite in this example we could use it as well, if we would be able find a constant factor x so that \[\frac{1}{n²+1} * x =\frac{1}{(n+1)²+1} \forall n \in [4,24] \subseteq \mathbb{N}\] You see immediately that this factor x exists but it is not CONSTANT (it depends on n), so we can't use the power series here. @tanjung I'm pretty sure that the answer UncleRauhkus gave you is the correct one, because I can't see the point of an exercise that would require you to do any calculations beside that, because it certainly would not "simplify" the matter.

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  16. mukushla
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    i meant that power series will not be useful for this problem and there is no way to simplify that expression...if im not wrong

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  17. calculusfunctions
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    Yes @mukushla and @sitwan you're both right. I know that, that's why I didn't proceed further. I was just thinking out loud.

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