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  1. Argos
    • one year ago
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  2. RONNCC
    • one year ago
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    ok so what do you think? :)

  3. RONNCC
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    the goal is to help, not to tell you the answer. sorry, we can't help on your test ;). So look up l'hopital and indeterminate form next.

  4. Argos
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    bamp

  5. RONNCC
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    yup. look up l'hopital and "indeterminate" form.

  6. RONNCC
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    tell us what you find

  7. Azteck
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    Dude Hero gave it away man. 1/x vanishes and then you have \[(1)^{-x}\]

  8. RONNCC
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    @Azteck how did he give it away? . ok first get @Argos to find out what indeterminate form is -____-

  9. Argos
    • one year ago
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    i know inderminite form is 0/0 or inf/inf

  10. Argos
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    and can to use lhospitals rule on those but nega exponent

  11. Azteck
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    Then you get this: \[\frac{ 1 }{ (1){^x} }\] \[\frac{ 1 }{ (1)^{\infty} }\] \[=\frac{ 1 }{ 1 }\]

  12. Argos
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    so answer is 1?

  13. Argos
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    because the back of the book sais its e

  14. Argos
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    nope I even doubel checked on wolfram http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=lim+as+x-%3E+inf+of+%281-%281%2Fx%29%29^-x

  15. RolyPoly
    • one year ago
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    Limit x approaches to infinity ( 1+ (1/x) )^x = e In your case, just replace x by -x in this formula. So, it's e.

  16. binarymimic
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    yeah 1 to the infinity is indeterminate so substitution will not work

  17. shubhamsrg
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    shouldnt answer be 2 ? from binomial approximation ?

  18. RolyPoly
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    Shouldn't it be e? A more accurate answer?

  19. shubhamsrg
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    i can see easily why e fits here.. but i dont understand why doesnt the ans come from binomial approximation

  20. RolyPoly
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    Sorry, I don't know binomial...

  21. shubhamsrg
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    ahh,maybe i see why.. power should be a real no. for that, here, power is not a real no.

  22. shubhamsrg
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    so, e is correct..

  23. amoodarya
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  24. RolyPoly
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    Even though we use L'Hopital's Rule, we get the same answer.. Let \(y= (1-\frac{1}{x})^{-x}\) \[\ln y= -x \ln (1-\frac{1}{x})\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\ln y= \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}-x \ln (1-\frac{1}{x})\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\ln y= \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\frac{ \ln (1-\frac{1}{x})}{-\frac{1}{x}}\]Use L'Hopital's Rule:\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\ln y= \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\frac{\frac{1}{{(1-\frac{1}{x})}}(\frac{1}{x^2})}{{\frac{1}{x^2}}}\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\ln y= \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\frac{1}{{(1-\frac{1}{x})}}\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\ln y= \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\frac{1}{{(\frac{x-1}{x})}}\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\ln y= \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\frac{x}{x-1}\]Use L'Hopital's Rule again.\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\ln y= \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\frac{1}{1}\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\ln y= 1\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}e^{\ln y}= e^1\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}y= e^1\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}(1-\frac{1}{x})^{-x}= e\]

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