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How might one go about doing this problem? Solve for x: x^2 + 24x + 90 = 0

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  1. nooce Group Title
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    Factor first :)

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  2. nooce Group Title
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    What factors of 90, when added together, give you 24?

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  3. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    Gimme a second.

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    Take your time (:

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  5. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    I don't think any do. 18 and 5 is the closest you can get to 24, which is 23.

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  6. nooce Group Title
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    Hmm, hold on a sec

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  7. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    I will do that.

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  8. nooce Group Title
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    Well, since it isn't factorable, we have to use the quadratic formula. Have you learned it?

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  9. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    Hardly. I've just started on it.

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  10. nooce Group Title
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    Well, this may take some explaining to do, so hold on for a bit haha.

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  11. nooce Group Title
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    x^2 + 24x + 90 = 0 Let's break down what this problem means. By plugging in a certain number(s) for x, you get zero. It's pretty much like plotting a graph of x^2 + 24x + 90 and looking for where the graph touches zero. Did I lose you yet?

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  12. nooce Group Title
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    |dw:1358120873885:dw|

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  13. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    Okay. I get it so far.

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  14. nooce Group Title
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    Alright. So since we have an equation that isn't factorable, we find the zeroes by plugging it into the quadratic formula.

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    This is the quadratic formula: \[x = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac} }{ 2a }\] Now, a, b, and c are the numbers in your equation -- \[a^2+bx+c\] In this case: \[x^2 + 24x + 90\] so, a=1, b= 24, and c=90.

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  16. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    Ok, lemme try it now.

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  17. nooce Group Title
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    Remember, the ± symbol indicates that there are two expressions! (ex. 1 ± 3 is 1 + 3 AND 1 - 3)

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    \[\Large0= \frac{ -24 \pm \sqrt{24^{2} -4(90)} }{ 2 }\]

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    Good so far!

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  20. nooce Group Title
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    except, it's x =

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  21. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    Well, since we're already using x in the original problem, how about Y?

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  22. nooce Group Title
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    But we're trying to solve for x, haha

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  23. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    eh, whatever. By the way, I'm having a slight problem with \[\sqrt{4(90)}\]

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  24. nooce Group Title
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    That's just \[\sqrt{4 • 90} = \sqrt{360}\]

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  25. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    Ah. \[\Large x= \frac{ -24 \pm 24\sqrt{360} }{ 2 }\]

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    No, remember 24^2 is under the radical (Don't take it out!) \[\sqrt{24^2 - 360}\]

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    \[\Large x= \frac{ -24 \pm \sqrt{ 24^{2} (-360)} }{ 2 }\]*

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  28. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    But, since √24^2 = 24, what's wrong with taking it out?

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  29. nooce Group Title
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    Because we can't have a negative number under a square root, haha

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  30. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    Ah.

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  31. nooce Group Title
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    But anyways, after plugging all of those numbers in, what do you geT?

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  32. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    So, \[\Large x= { -12 \pm (\sqrt{ 24^{2} (-360)} /2)}\] ? I'm confused now e_o

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    Well, the /2 should be on the bottom of the whole thing, but besides that, Let's simplify the square root first. What is 24^2 - 360?

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    216.

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  35. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    and the root of that is 14.giganticdecimal

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  36. nooce Group Title
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    Well, let's simplify it haha sqrt of 216 can be reduced into what? (hint: 36 x 6 = 216)

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  37. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    oh gee, this is a tought one... 2... and... erm... GIMME A MINUTE

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    tough*

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  39. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    OOH! I KNOW! 36 AND 6. BOOM. Don't you wish you had thought of that?

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  40. nooce Group Title
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    Hahahaha. You are correct x)

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    So... now we have \[x = \frac{ -24 \pm 6\sqrt{6} }{ 2 }\] which breaks down to: \[x = \frac{ -24 + 6\sqrt{6} }{ 2 }\] \[x = \frac{ -24 - 6\sqrt{6} }{ 2 }\] I assume you can solve from there :)

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    \[\Huge x = { -12 - 3\sqrt{3} }\] ?

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  43. nooce Group Title
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    Annnnnnnnnd?

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  44. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    I was wondering if I was right, which I guess I am. So, is it \(\Huge x=-12 -3?\)

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  45. nooce Group Title
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    Wait, no don't take out the radical 3 lol You need to solve for the other part: \[x = \frac{ -24 + 6\sqrt{6} }{ 2 }\] Your first solution was correct, btw!

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  46. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    Oh. x=-12 + 3√3. And now what do I do?

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  47. nooce Group Title
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    Well, those are your solutions, haha x=-12 + 3√3 and x=-12 - 3√3 Yay!

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  48. poopsiedoodle Group Title
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    :D

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  49. nooce Group Title
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    :D indeed! If you need more help, just pm me (:

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