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There are many ropes keeping a hot air balloon from floating away before a balloon race. One of these ropes is fixed to the ground at a 45° angle. Another is fixed to the ground at a 30° angle.
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Falco276 Group Title
There are many ropes keeping a hot air balloon from floating away before a balloon race. One of these ropes is fixed to the ground at a 45° angle. Another is fixed to the ground at a 30° angle.
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
If the hot air balloon is 21 feet off the ground, what is the distance between the ground directly underneath the balloon and the second rope rounded to the nearest hundredth of a foot? Type the numeric answer only in the box below.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ok let me see
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I think I know. The vertical angle measurement is equal to the horizontal measurement of the right angle.
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
21 feet by 21 feet. I just have to find out the measurement to rope 2
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
they are asking you the distance between rope 2 and underneath the balloon right?
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yes, exactly.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
just to make sure i understood well, i remind you i'm not english!! hehehe
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
lemme get a paper so i can explain better
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
the distance between rope 2 and 1 is x right? as the drawing says
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
yes, but I found the half of X which is 45.
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
look at the drawing, am I right?
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I only have to fing the measurement that is the question mark.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you have 2 angles if you notice
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
even though they dont give you a number, you can see that the angle underneath the balloon is 90, a right triangle
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i noticed that.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
apply pitagoras
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ah well you need to find the sides first, nevermind
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you gonna solve the problem like this
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
x: distance from rope 2 to underneath the balloon  distance from rope 1 to underneath the balloon
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
distance from rope 1 to underneath the balloon = 45.
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Im trying to figure out rope 2
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
how do you know its 45? 45 is the given angle
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
no, not from the angle. On how I got 45 was that the vertical measurement leading to the balloon has the same measurement that leads to rope 1.
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
NO NO NO NO!!!!!
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Im solving it, wait
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I have it wrong!
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
it has a lot to do with sinus and cosinus
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
its 21!!!!!! Its 21!!!!
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
well first you need to remember that sinus = op side / h
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
we are measuring from rope 1 to balloon now, so sin 30 right?
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i tell you that sin 30 = 1/2
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so you gonna put 1/2 = 21ft / h right?
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
solve for h and then you have the hypotenuse
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
what do you think you can do next
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
there are many ways to solve this problem
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
um, okay.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
also remember that all the angles of a triangle = 180, if this doesn't happen, it's not a triangle
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so if you have a 90º angle, a 30º angle...what's the other angle?
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
wait, so were trying to find a measurement form rope 1 to the balloon, am I right?
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i got it already, just waiting to see how you proceed
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
that problem is too difficult for you, i mean, they should teach you trigonommetry first, there's no way you can do that without using trigonommetry
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I never took trigonometery before.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I know you haven't heard of the trigonometric functions
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you need to do it 2 steps
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
no, never. I just take basic geometry.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
do you remember what was the sinus and what was the cosinus?
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
(sigh) I don't remember. (honest, i don't want to be mean to you.)
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
hahaha, dont worry about it, i'll explain again, but you should take note of it because you are going to need it in EVERY problem
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
okay, I'll take your note.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Now you need to MEMORIZE this scheme, mathematics are also a subject to study!
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
now ill draw you a triangle and you'll tell me which is the oppsite and which is the adjacent side ok?
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I think the opposite side is left from angle A the adj side is right from Angle A.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
just read its name
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
opposite = infront of the angle
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adjacent = sidewards the angle
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
alongside of it
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
fine! Isn't the adjecent side the How do I Explain it! Isnt the adjecent side the sidewards of the angle?
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
no, the other one, that's the hypotenuse
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
@hba please help me!
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hba Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@GCR92 is helping you,Just follow him :)
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I have to explain the whole trigonometry before you are able to solve that problem...
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
(sigh) ok.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I explain as simple as it is, but not simpler
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ok i put the turbo now
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
we are going to solve 2 triangles
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
wait. I think I have it.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
we are going to use the sinus to solve this one, why sinus? because the problem has given us the opposite side, wich is 21 ft
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
For the 45° triangle
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
and sinus = op side / h
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
and we can make a relationship
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
tan Ө = opposite / adjacent tan Ө = height of the balloon off the ground / x tan 45° = 15 / x x = 15 / tan 45° x = 15 / 1 x = 15
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
is this correct?
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
where did you get 15?
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
oh, no i meant 21 (facepalm)
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You could've done it if you had the value of the x side
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
but that's what we are looking for
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
to use the tangent you need to have the value of 2 sides
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I'd like to continue now
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
now we take the other triangle.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
the adjacent side is not 21, 21 is the only data they give us, you can't invent it
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
listen i dont want to be mean either but i want to help you and i want to finish, if you think you don't need to do what i tell you to solve it, go ahead
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sin 30 = 1/2, we do that in order to calculate H
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
1/2 = 21 / h
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
now we take the cosinus in order to calculate X
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
cos 30 = sqrt 3 / 2
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sqrt 3 / 2 = 42 / x
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you can never write tan and let it alone
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
it is always tan OF SOMETHING
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
tan of x, tan of alfa, tan of 20
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
so the answer is 21 sq. root 3
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ill solve it
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
take the 30º triangle and then, sin 30 = 1/2
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
1/2 = 21 / h, h = 42
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
now we have the h of the first triangle
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now we can calculate the distance from the rope to underneath the balloon, that distance will be given by the cosinus
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
cos 30 = sqrt 3 / 2
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sqrt 3 /2 = x/42
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
now we go to the second triangle and apply exactly the same steps but with 45º
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
maybe my way of solving this problem was wrong. sorry.
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i tried my best.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I know but mathematics doesn't magically happen, you need to study a lot( and suffer lol) dont worry
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
if you do the same with the second triangle
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sin 45 = sqrt 2 / 2
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sqrt 2 / 2 = 21 / h
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
now we calculate the cosinus
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
cos 45 = sqrt 2 / 2
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
sqrt 2 / 2 = x / 28,698
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
distance from underneath the ballon to the second rope = 36, 373 + 20,292 = 56,665 feet
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
and it's solved
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
wait, but earlier you said that x is 36 never mind :P
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
that's the distance between underneath the balloon and rope 2
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
ah, i see.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
and 20,292 ft is the distance between underneath the balloon and rope 1
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
36ft is the distance between rope 2 and 1
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
then you calculate from rope 1 to underneath the ballon and it gives you 20 ft
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you add it and you obtain the final result
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
what i did is totally useless, i mean you can't learn in 20 min, i always believed that a teacher is need in order to learn something, anyway, wish you luck with this!
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you did well! at least you had ideas! you only need to learn the theory well
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
i also think your teachers are crazy though
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
XD Thanks Gonzalo! I promise to keep the theory at heart. Yes, I finally understood the answer and also the work. I'll tell you if need help on anything else.
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You are welcome, sure, see you! :D
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
thanks! (thumbs up)
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GCR92 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
I also can be wrong, i mean if your teachers yells at you it is my fault, just don't take that in account, it's been ages since i dont take trigonometry :p
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Falco276 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
oh, i understand, dont worry! my teachers are really nice.
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