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mariomintchev
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Can someone clearly explain to me what i need to do and why I am doing this?
 one year ago
 one year ago
mariomintchev Group Title
Can someone clearly explain to me what i need to do and why I am doing this?
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@Callisto @Mertsj @NotTim @phi @satellite73 @UnkleRhaukus
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mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
It's a matrix problem.
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UnkleRhaukus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
\[\left[\begin{array}{ccc}3&6&9\\0&3&7\\0&1&1 \end{array}\right]\left[\begin{array}{c}1\\1\\7 \end{array}\right]\] \[\sim\left[\begin{array}{ccc}3&6&9\\0&3&7\\(00)&(33)&(17)\end{array}\right]\left[\begin{array}{c}1\\1\\(71) \end{array}\right]\qquad R_3\to R_3R_2\] \[\sim\left[\begin{array}{ccc}3&6&9\\0&3&7\\0&0&8\end{array}\right]\left[\begin{array}{c}1\\1\\8 \end{array}\right]\] \[\sim\left[\begin{array}{ccc}3&6&9\\0&3&7\\0&0&8/8\end{array}\right]\left[\begin{array}{c}1\\1\\8/8 \end{array}\right]\qquad R_3\to R_3/8\] \[\sim\left[\begin{array}{ccc}3&6&9\\0&3&7\\0&0&1\end{array}\right]\left[\begin{array}{c}1\\1\\1 \end{array}\right]\]
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mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok so our goal is to make the second box or matrix or whatever you wanna call it, be the same?
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mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
and what does REF and RREF mean??
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
reduced echelon form and row reduced echelon form echelon just means "stairs"
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Unkles 3rd line is REF RREF has leading 1s
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mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
btw that doesn't seem to be the right anwer
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mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
its cause @UnkleRhaukus has 7 instead of 7
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
multiply the 2nd row by 1 and add it to the 3rd row to get a new thrid row and a matrix in ref
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
the object is to get rid of that 3 in the 2nd column of the last row
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
(0 3 7 1) *1 0 3 7 1 0 3 1 7  0 0 6 8 new 3rd
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mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
why is that the goal? we want everything under the bridge we draw to equal zero?
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mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
dw:1359151416530:dw this is what i mean by bridge ^^^^
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TimSmit Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
If your matrix gets that form then you can easily solve for for the three unknowns. When you look at the last row, you see that there is a direct relation for the third unknown (lets call it x3): 6*x3 = 8. Now that x3 is known, there is a direct relation for the second unknown and after that for the first.
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mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok i still dont understand the goal of this....
 one year ago

mariomintchev Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
like the purpose of changing the last row
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TimSmit Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
If you don't change the last row, then you need to calculate x2 and x3 from the two last equations (2 equations, two unknowns). If you do change it, then one of the unknowns is directly given (the last row does not depend on x2 and x1 as the first two values in the matrix are zero).
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UnkleRhaukus Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
i see i did copy the question incorrectly, that seven on the second row should be a negative like you say @mariomintchev. so the working/solution will be a bit different , However the method will be the same, The basic idea is that a matrix is a simpler way of representing an system of equations, performing row operations does not change the solution to the system. We choose row operations that reduce the complicated system by merging information in different rows, row echelon form is when we have zeroes below the main diagonal( or bridge) and ones as the first terms in each row. from REF we usually continue to Reduced row echelon form because then the solution can be easily be read off say \[\left[\begin{array}{ccc}1&0&0\\0&1&0\\0&0&1 \end{array}\right]\left[\begin{array}{c}8\tfrac16\\12\tfrac12\\5\tfrac12 \end{array}\right]\] which is kinda shorthand for\[\left[\begin{array}{cccc}1&0&0&x_1\\0&1&0&x_2\\0&0&1&x_3 \end{array}\right]=\left[\begin{array}{c}8\tfrac16\\12\tfrac12\\5\tfrac12 \end{array}\right]\] which equivalent to\[x_1+0+0=8\tfrac16\]\[0+x_2+0=12\tfrac12\]\[0+0+x_3=5\tfrac12\] which is the solution to the system
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
matrix setups are just another way of organizing the data. The elementary row operations on a matrix are the same technique/construct as working an system of equation using "elimination" method.
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