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tanner23456 Group Title

Why is the music section of this site filled with poetry? I was thinking it would be music theory or something related to music worth conversing about. What's the deal?

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  1. Opcode Group Title
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    Why is the music section of this site filled with poetry? I believe "poetry" should go under writing/literature. And raps and smuck stay here. I was thinking it would be music theory or something related to music worth conversing about. What's the deal? You'd have a better chance on learning music theory in the History section. This "Music" group is more like an I don't care group.

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    Here's the thing, I don't think you understand what music theory is if you're telling to go to the history section to find it. But it's ok, obviously nobody else here does either. Also, I don't think these people realize that nobody wants to hear their cheesy cliche love song lyrics.

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    I know what music theory. It's about the composers and their techniques in music. I'm just saying you COULD get better help in the history section. Here your question will die and never be seen.

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  4. InYourHead Group Title
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    Honestly I agree with both of you. Never, in the history of ever, has any question pertaining to the academic study of music been asked, in the Music section.

    • one year ago
  5. Emmzy Group Title
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    Seriously... I"m in music theory II at my preforming arts high school and I thought I could get help but apparently not. Well if anyone knows anything about secondary triads, come help me.

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    @Emmzy I can't help too great in that area sorry :( But be sure to check out this link: http://forum.emusictheory.com/read.php?5,1145,1145,quote=1

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    Thanks anyway. They are only talking about what if triads. and I need to know the concept of making one.

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  8. tanner23456 Group Title
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    @Emmzy this might help you understand secondary triads a little more. I like this guy's explanation. http://forum.emusictheory.com/read.php?5,1145

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    It's the same forum. I'm a vocal major so I guess I just learn differently. Because I didnt understand any of that. I guess I just need solfege.

    • one year ago
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    Well, in any given key there are 7 different triads. In a major key, they are represented as I, ii, iii, IV, V, vi, vii I,IV,V are capital because they are major. They are also known as the primary triads. ii, iii, vi, vii are minor and also secondary triads. Does that help at all?

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    okay yeah. and on 64 you double the bass and on 6 you double the root? And 53 means root position?

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    in 4 part writing.

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  13. tanner23456 Group Title
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    53, 63, and 64 are chord inversions. 53 is root position (bass note in the root) 63 is 1st inversion (third note in the root) 64 is 2nd inversion (fifth note in the root) As for doubling in four part, you usually double the root, but here's some rules I found here: http://www.dangutwein.net/courses/theorytxt/text/4-part.htm The primary rule for doubling is simple: Double the most stable notes of the triad. We apply this rule by considering the following alternatives in order: Doubled Root. Double the root of the triad, when possible. Doubled Fifth. Double the fifth of the triad if this is warranted by some voice leading consideration. Doubled Third. Double the third only for the most compelling voice leading reasons.

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    Chords or triads typically go 1st, 3rd, and 5th and that's what I have referenced to in my explanation of chord inversions.

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    Because most songs are made from poetry and thats usually how the start of a good song starts. The people that put poetry on here might put it to a song someday and in the mean time want people to know what they think of their poem.

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    Yes, but until then, it's just poetry. I'm not saying I don't like poetry but this isn't the place to discuss it. Try the English section.

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    i dont see any poetry questions here in the music section? i do however see people relating poetry to music and trying to change them to songs or simply posting songs...

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    Wait you do see poetry, or you don't? Kind of contradicting. Either way nobody is relating anything to music.

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    No i dont see poetry. Period. I see people asking how to change their poem to a song ~ music.

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  20. bngaure Group Title
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    if even that, mainly lyrics are posted on here.

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    K wait, first you say you don't see poetry and then you see people talking about their poems.... pretty sure you're still contradicting yourself, but it's ok. I still have yet to find a person who has changed their poem to a song. Until then, you can call it lyrics if you want, but it's all just poetry until it has a melody. And such belongs in the english section. Even if it did have a melody, why are we posting the lyrics? There is no musical thinking involved in the lyrics.

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    i understand your FRUSTRATION @tanner23456 don't think these poems are waste or something, i know its for music but please refer to the third point of the rules stated by moderator http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/4f9035b8e4b000310fae4570 hope you aint frustrated anymore, making negative remark on creation shows, you ain't capable of doing that , whatever m not rude but all m saying it don't call others piece of work write by their heart as sh.it , if you aint capable of seeing the beauty , thanks

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    I would have to agree with you @tanner23456, not that my little 2 cents actually matters :) I was just speaking my mind<3

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  24. tanner23456 Group Title
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    @itsmylife you misunderstood me. I think it's great that all these people have great abilities in poetry, but until it has a melody, it belongs in the english section.

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    none of the song is basically a song it is derived from poem and may be i misunderstood you but thats not literature either whatever has been composed here has been transformed in to music too, you can ask people for ther composition n ups and downs , although i agree that a few thing on music section is proper poetry that shouldnt be here :)

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    I'm sorry, but I have yet to find a person with an actual melody to go with their poem.

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    Really then you've found one... I know several on my friends that have done it too.

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  28. bngaure Group Title
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    this is ridiculous, clearly you have an issue. bring it up with the mods.

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    @bngaure technically I wasn't asking your specific opinion so don't get offended. I appreciate your input though. I only have an issue with all the poetry, but I guess I gotta get over it because somehow our society has mixed the definitions of music and poetry.

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