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ranyai12
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Can someone please help?!
For the function f(x,y)=5(x^6)y+4sin(xy),
calculate the indicated partial derivatives
f(x)=
f(y)=
f(xxy)=
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ranyai12 Group Title
Can someone please help?! For the function f(x,y)=5(x^6)y+4sin(xy), calculate the indicated partial derivatives f(x)= f(y)= f(xxy)=
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
You mean \[f_x, f_y, \enspace \text{and}\enspace f_{xxy}\] right?
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
So, for \[f_x\] treat y like a constant and take the derivative as usual. In other words, pretend that y is the number 2 or something and do the derivative of x.
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
So for, \[f(x,y)=5(x^6)y+4\sin(xy)\] Treat y like any old number and we get that \[f_x=5y\cdot 6x^5 + 4\cdot y \cos(xy)=30x^5y+4y \cos(xy)\] Notice how we used the chain rule for sin(xy) and thought of it just like the derivative of sin(2x) = 2cos(2x).
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Does that make sense to you? :)
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok so i think i got it but when I attempted for f_y i got 5x^64xsin(xy) and it was wrong can you lease tell me what im doing wrong
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I figured out my mistake but whats fxxy?
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
OK, so for f_y we will get the following
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
i solved for f_y but I cant seem to figure out what f_xxy is supposed to be
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
So for f_xxy, first do f_x you will get some equation. Then take the equation you get and do f_x again you will get another equation. Last, take the equation and do f_y and thats the answer.
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
It's like doing the third derivative, but you take the derivative with respect to different variable each time
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[f(x,y)=5(x^ 6 )y+4\sin(xy)\] \[f_x = 30yx^5 + 4y \cos(xy)\] \[f_{xx} = 150yx^4  4y^2 \sin(xy)\] \[f_{xxy}=150x^44[y^2\cdot y \cos(xy) + \sin(xy)\cdot 2y]\]
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
you must use a product rule for the last part, think of having 4y^2 times sin(2y) you would have to use the product rule.
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
im sorry but can you explain that a little better im still confused
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@jtvatsim
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jtvatsim Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZwdHLbmFJs fast forward to 22:15
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
thank you but the answer is wrong :(
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
@agent0smith d you have any idea on how to solve for the last part?
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Were you able to solve the first two parts? :o
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yes i did but i cant seem to figure out the last part
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Yah Jvatsim made a tiny mistake on his last derivative, let's continue from \(f_{xx}\).
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok thank you
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\large f_{xx} =\color{royalblue}{150x^4}y  4y^2 \sin(\color{royalblue}{x}y)\] We're going to be taking the derivative with respect to `y` for our last step, so we can think of these blue values as constants. The first part shouldn't be too bad, ~A constant times y, taking the derivative with respect to y will leave us with just the constant yes? \[\large 150x^4\]
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
For the next part, we have two functions of `y`, so we have to apply the product rule.
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ok but how would we do that
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\large \color{orangered}{(4y^2)'}\sin(xy)4y^2\color{orangered}{\left[\sin(xy)\right]'}\] Sorry for the delay, got sidetracked. So here is how we setup the product rule, We need to take the derivative of the orange terms. And we're differentiating these orange parts only with respect to y.
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
\[\large (8y)\sin(xy)4y^2\color{orangered}{\left[\sin(xy)\right]'}\]Understand the first term ok? I guess remembering how to setup product rule is pretty important for this :\
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yea i do thanks
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
for the second part would you consider x as a constant
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Yes c: You'll end up applying the chain rule after you take the derivative of the sine portion.
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
So yah the x being a constant is important to remember c:
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
In the previous partials you did, the y was the constant, so an extra y kept popping out each time you took a derivative. The opposite variable will pop out this time
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so the second part would be xcos(xy)?
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
(−8y)sin(xy)−4xy^2[cos(xy)]
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
so would that be the answer?
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zepdrix Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.1
Yes, you have 3 parts I believe. The first part, and then the other two parts which came from the product rule.\[\large f_{xxy}=150x^48ysin(xy)4xy^2\cos(xy)\] We were working on each part separately, hopefully you didn't lose track of that first part :) heh
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ranyai12 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
haha i ddnt forget thank you sooo much!
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