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theslytherinhelper
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Algebra 2, Solving Polynomial Equations
Determine the zeros of f(x) = x4 – x3 + 7x2 – 9x – 18.
 one year ago
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theslytherinhelper Group Title
Algebra 2, Solving Polynomial Equations Determine the zeros of f(x) = x4 – x3 + 7x2 – 9x – 18.
 one year ago
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I've gotten most of the work down, if you'd like to see it. I'm stuck on the last step :(
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
youre not doing ferrari are you?
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theslytherinhelper Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ferrari?
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
x4 – x3 + 7x2 – 9x – 18=0 to get rid of the x3 term, let x=(y+1/4) (y+1/4)^4 – (y+1/4)^3 + (y+1/4)^2 – 9(y+1/4) – 18=0 \[y^4+\frac58y^2\frac{69}8y\frac{5171}{256}=0\] put the linear parts on the other side \[y^4+\frac58y^2=\frac{69}8y+\frac{5171}{256}\] complete the square on the left by adding 5y^2/8+25/64 to each side \[(y^2+\frac58)^2=\frac58y^2+\frac{69}8y+\frac{5271}{256}\] this is as far as we can go without introducing another variable, like z adding a z into the left side gives us more room to play with, but we have to adjust the right side by the same amount: (a+b+c)^2 = a^2+2ab+b^2+(c^2+2c(a+b)) so lets input the z on the left, and add z^2 + 2z(y^2+5/8) to the right side \[(y^2+\frac58+z)^2=\frac58y^2+\frac{69}8y+\frac{5271}{256}+z^2 + 2z(y^2+\frac58)\] lets clean up the right side to see it in its quadraitc form for y \[(y^2+\frac58+z)^2=(2z+\frac58)y^2+\frac{69}8y+(z^2+\frac{10}{8}z+\frac{5271}{256}) \] solving the right side for yusing the quadratic formula we get: \[\Large y=\frac{\frac{69}{8}\pm\sqrt{(\frac{69}{8})^24(2z+\frac58)(z^2+\frac{10}{8}z+\frac{5271}{256})}}{2(2z+\frac58)}\] if we can get the discriminant to equal zero, for some reason, the method will give us roots ... so \[(\frac{69}{8})^24(2z+\frac58)(z^2+\frac{10}{8}z+\frac{5271}{256})=0\] which simplifies (lol) to:\[8z^3+\frac{25}{2}z^2+\frac{5371}{32}z\frac{11733}{512}=0\]which is just Cardanos method now.
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
Cardanos method is to reduse it by removing the z^2; let z=(u25/48) 8(u25/48)^3+25(u25/48)^2/2+5371(u25/48)/3211733/512 which reduces to:\[u^3+\frac{484}{24}u=\frac{2918}{216}\] hence: \[u=\sqrt[3]{\sqrt{\frac{(2918/216)^2}{4}+\frac{(484/24)^3}{27}}+\frac{(2918/216)}{2}}\\~~~~~\sqrt[3]{\sqrt{\frac{(2918/216)^2}{4}+\frac{(484/24)^3}{27}}\frac{(2918/216)}{2}}\] \[u=...\]
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
lol, im pretty sure i might have mistyped a number or two, but if youve never heard of ferrari then im sure theres a simpler way they want you to look at this
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
what is your last step?
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theslytherinhelper Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Thanks sooo much! The last step is simplifying the equation. ^_^
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
im not sure of the method you used, so ill need to know a little more about how you approached this
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
my u wasnt all the way simplified \[u^3+\frac{121}{6}u=\frac{1459}{108}\] might make life on my method here a smidge simpler \[u = \sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}+\frac{1459}{216}}\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}\frac{1459}{216}}=abt~~0.6559\] \[z=u\frac{25}{48}=\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}+\frac{1459}{216}}\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}\frac{1459}{216}}\frac{25}{48}\] plugging this into our (y^2...)^2 = y^2+... setup with the zs gives us \[(y^2+\frac58+z)^2=(2z+\frac58)y^2+\frac{69}8y+(z^2+\frac{10}{8}z+\frac{5271}{256})\] \[(y^2+\frac58+(\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}+\frac{1459}{216}}\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}\frac{1459}{216}}\frac{25}{48}))^2\\=(2(\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}+\frac{1459}{216}}\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}\frac{1459}{216}}\frac{25}{48})+\frac58)y^2+\frac{69}8y\\+((\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}+\frac{1459}{216}}\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}\frac{1459}{216}}\frac{25}{48})^2\\+\frac{10}{8}(\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}+\frac{1459}{216}}\sqrt[3]{\frac{\sqrt{22361}}{8}\frac{1459}{216}}\frac{25}{48})+\frac{5271}{256}\]
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amistre64 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.2
im sooo glad for the wolfram :)
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