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Atkinsoha
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Simplify the expression using a sum or difference formula:
sin(x+y)sec x sec y
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PreCalc & Trig Help! Simplify the expression using a sum or difference formula: sin(x+y)sec x sec y
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
^opps, show all steps too please.
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
\[\sin(x+y)=\sin(x)\cos(y)+\cos(x)\sin(y)\] then multiply out
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
how do you get to that point? like, can you start from the beginning because I need to show all steps for full credit.
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
you can look in your text for a proof of that result, but that is not what you are being asked to do. you are being asked to multiply out, the point of the exercise it to use that identity, not to derive it
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
in other words, you are being asked a question to see if you know the identity multiplying out is now a matter of algebra
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I just don't understand how you went from sin(x+y)sec(x)sec(y) to that..
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
oh i have confused you that is not the answer at all that is the identity \[\sin(x+y)=\sin(x)\cos(y)+\cos(x)\sin(y)\]
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yes, you have confused me..
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
now your job is to multiply \[\left(\sin(x)\cos(y)+\cos(x)\sin(y)\right)\times \sec(x)\sec(y)\]\]
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Maybe I should tell you this.. I've been gone from school for a few weeks now (death in the family) I have no idea how to do any of this..
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
you get \[\sin(x)\cos(y)\sec(x)\sec(y)+\cos(x)\sin(y)\sec(x)\sec(y)\] as a first step
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay.. then were the heck do you go?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
that was multiplying out using the distributive law then \(\sec(x)=\frac{1}{\cos(x)}\) so you can cancel some stuff
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
lets look at the first term \[\sin(x)\cos(y)\sec(x)\sec(y)\] that is equal to \[\frac{\sin(x)\cos(y)}{\cos(x)\cos(y)}\]
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
cancel the \(\cos(y)\) top and bottom and get \[\frac{\sin(x)}{\cos(x)}\] which you can rewrite as \[\tan(x)\]
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay. that makes some sense..
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
basically the same thing for the other side too then?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
did you know \(\sec(x)=\frac{1}{\cos(x)}\)? this is really algebra at this step
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
yes, same thing for the second term
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
only this time you will get \(\tan(y)\)
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Yes I did. Just didn't understand the problem.. so you get down to tan x=tanx?
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
ohh, yeah. tan x + tan y
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
that is it, yes
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
So is that your answer then? tan x + tan y?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
that is my answer, yes
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Okay, that makes sense. Do you have time to help me with one more problem?
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay, let me take a screen shot.
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
I kind of understand it.. but not really :/
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
ok we can do this, but it is going to take a minute ready?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
we are going to use the same formula that we used above \[\sin(u+v)=\sin(u)\cos(v)+\cos(u)\sin(v)\] at the moment, we know only two of those four numbers
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
yes, we know sin u and cos v
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
we need \(cos(u)\) do you know how to find it?
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Don't you have to make a triangle or something?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
yes exactly
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Okay, I'm not sure exactly how to come about finding it on a triangle
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
dw:1362154017344:dw
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
third side via pythagoras \[\sqrt{61^211^2}=60\]
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Wouldn't it be 50?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
no \[\cos(u)=\frac{60}{61}\]
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
adjacent over hypotenuse
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
Okay. so we still ned to find the sin one right?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
right but actually i made a mistake \[\cos(u)=\frac{60}{61}\] because you are in quadrant 2
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
now we need \(\sin(v)\) and it is the same idea as before dw:1362154367573:dw
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
the third side is \[\sqrt{41^240^2}=9\]so \(\sin(v)=\frac{9}{41}\)
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
now plug the numbers directly in to the formula
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay, then you just solve it right? multiplying and adding fractions basically?
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
\[\frac{11}{61}\times (\frac{40}{41})+\frac{9}{61}\times( \frac{60}{61})\]
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
yeah it is arithmetic from here on in gotta run, good luck
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
thank you!
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
wait quick
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
oh i made a typo!!
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
for multiplying you flip the second fraction?
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\[\frac{11}{61}\times (\frac{40}{41})+\frac{9}{41}\times( \frac{60}{61})\]
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satellite73 Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.3
flip nothing multiply straight across
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Atkinsoha Group TitleBest ResponseYou've already chosen the best response.0
okay. ill give it a try... thanks!
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